Close proximity charter light transport returning from a training flight and GA small aircraft cross...

Attributes
ACN	199712
Time
Date	199201
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : dfw airport : gvt
State Reference	TX
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 65 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 1700
ASRS Report	199712
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 50
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

A northbound small aircraft nearly collided with our wbound light transport. I (captain) recognized the hazard 2 seconds before we passed 50 ft above the small aircraft. I attempted to climb, however, my evasive action had no effect until the aircraft had already passed left to right. We had just completed a chkride at 'gvt' and were returning to 'ads' 30 NM west (8 min). We leveled at 2500 MSL and contacted dfw approach requesting VFR clearance into the TCA. The near miss occurred before radar contact was established. The near miss was caused by the mixing of highspd and lowspd traffic without radar separation. Both flts were operating within the law. I do not believe any change in airspace structure or FARS would help. We must fly turbojets 10000 ft or IFR or both. We should conduct all training/chkrides late at night or early in the morning whenever possible.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLOSE PROX CHARTER LTT RETURNING FROM A TRAINING FLT AND GA SMA CROSS HIS TRACK IN UCA.

Narrative: A NBOUND SMA NEARLY COLLIDED WITH OUR WBOUND LTT. I (CAPT) RECOGNIZED THE HAZARD 2 SECONDS BEFORE WE PASSED 50 FT ABOVE THE SMA. I ATTEMPTED TO CLB, HOWEVER, MY EVASIVE ACTION HAD NO EFFECT UNTIL THE ACFT HAD ALREADY PASSED L TO R. WE HAD JUST COMPLETED A CHKRIDE AT 'GVT' AND WERE RETURNING TO 'ADS' 30 NM W (8 MIN). WE LEVELED AT 2500 MSL AND CONTACTED DFW APCH REQUESTING VFR CLRNC INTO THE TCA. THE NEAR MISS OCCURRED BEFORE RADAR CONTACT WAS ESTABLISHED. THE NEAR MISS WAS CAUSED BY THE MIXING OF HIGHSPD AND LOWSPD TFC WITHOUT RADAR SEPARATION. BOTH FLTS WERE OPERATING WITHIN THE LAW. I DO NOT BELIEVE ANY CHANGE IN AIRSPACE STRUCTURE OR FARS WOULD HELP. WE MUST FLY TURBOJETS 10000 FT OR IFR OR BOTH. WE SHOULD CONDUCT ALL TRAINING/CHKRIDES LATE AT NIGHT OR EARLY IN THE MORNING WHENEVER POSSIBLE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Close proximity charter light transport returning from a training flight and GA small aircraft cross his track in uca.