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Air carrier medium large transport altitude deviation excursion from clearance altitude in response to TCASII RA while on a STAR into dfw.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 198832 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199201 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 198832 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On approach at dfw, level at 11000 ft. We got an RA to 'climb, climb.' we climbed immediately to put the roc needle in the green (1500-2000 FPM) and noted traffic on the TCASII screen at approximately 9 O'clock but didn't have time to note his altitude. At approximately 11800 ft the advisory ceased and we descended to 11000 ft. The controller was very busy and we couldn't get a word in edgewise till we were at 11800 ft. She wasn't too happy (traffic at 12000 ft). Why don't they include in this procedure that we immediately squawk 7700 to alert the controller? We in fact did have traffic at 9 O'clock as attested to by the passenger! It passed under us!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG ALTDEV EXCURSION FROM CLRNC ALT IN RESPONSE TO TCASII RA WHILE ON A STAR INTO DFW.
Narrative: ON APCH AT DFW, LEVEL AT 11000 FT. WE GOT AN RA TO 'CLB, CLB.' WE CLBED IMMEDIATELY TO PUT THE ROC NEEDLE IN THE GREEN (1500-2000 FPM) AND NOTED TFC ON THE TCASII SCREEN AT APPROX 9 O'CLOCK BUT DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO NOTE HIS ALT. AT APPROX 11800 FT THE ADVISORY CEASED AND WE DSNDED TO 11000 FT. THE CTLR WAS VERY BUSY AND WE COULDN'T GET A WORD IN EDGEWISE TILL WE WERE AT 11800 FT. SHE WASN'T TOO HAPPY (TFC AT 12000 FT). WHY DON'T THEY INCLUDE IN THIS PROC THAT WE IMMEDIATELY SQUAWK 7700 TO ALERT THE CTLR? WE IN FACT DID HAVE TFC AT 9 O'CLOCK AS ATTESTED TO BY THE PAX! IT PASSED UNDER US!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.