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Cleared direct ege cleared for a visual. Was understood by flight crew who then descended. Controller indicated they were still on IFR so they canceled and proceeded VFR to airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 198746 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199201 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : rlg airport : ege |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 16000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other landing other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 199746 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 215 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 250 |
| ASRS Report | 198678 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
WX clear 40 mi visibility 10 mi east of rlg VOR at 17000. Center cleared us 'direct eagle, visual approach.' started descent to 14000. Center asked position and stated they had lost radar contact. Past rlg, center 'cleared us to 16000.' we cancelled IFR and proceeded to the airport. 'Problem' confusion with clearance. I feel center cleared us for a visual approach at the same time they cleared us direct to the eagle airport and we no longer had an altitude restriction.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLRED DIRECT EGE CLRED FOR A VISUAL. WAS UNDERSTOOD BY FLC WHO THEN DSNDED. CTLR INDICATED THEY WERE STILL ON IFR SO THEY CANCELED AND PROCEEDED VFR TO ARPT.
Narrative: WX CLR 40 MI VISIBILITY 10 MI E OF RLG VOR AT 17000. CENTER CLRED US 'DIRECT EAGLE, VISUAL APCH.' STARTED DSCNT TO 14000. CENTER ASKED POS AND STATED THEY HAD LOST RADAR CONTACT. PAST RLG, CENTER 'CLRED US TO 16000.' WE CANCELLED IFR AND PROCEEDED TO THE ARPT. 'PROBLEM' CONFUSION WITH CLRNC. I FEEL CENTER CLRED US FOR A VISUAL APCH AT THE SAME TIME THEY CLRED US DIRECT TO THE EAGLE ARPT AND WE NO LONGER HAD AN ALT RESTRICTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.