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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 198652 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199201 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : iiu |
| State Reference | KY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 27800 msl bound upper : 29000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 1 |
| ASRS Report | 198652 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 vertical : 700 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was descending to FL290. He needed to get down to FL240 as he was an arrival. Air carrier X had air carrier Y at FL280 in sight. I pointed out air carrier Y to air carrier X. I started to point out traffic to air carrier Y who wanted FL270, but had traffic at FL270 (air carrier Z). As I was pointing out his traffic, I noticed air carrier X altitude of FL287. I immediately asked his altitude. He reported he was level at FL290. Adep went off between air carrier X and Y. Next, I see air carrier Y altitude at FL278. I asked him to verify level at FL280 and he replied he had a TCASII alert and was descending. I immediately told him that air carrier X above him was level at FL290 and to climb back up to FL280. The adep did not go off between air carrier Y and air carrier Z as there was about 5-6 mi separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X UNAUTHORIZED DSCNT THROUGH ASSIGNED ALT HAD LTSS FROM ACR Y. ACR Y TCASII RA UNAUTHORIZED DSCNT FROM ASSIGNED ALT. PLTDEV.
Narrative: ACR X WAS DSNDING TO FL290. HE NEEDED TO GET DOWN TO FL240 AS HE WAS AN ARR. ACR X HAD ACR Y AT FL280 IN SIGHT. I POINTED OUT ACR Y TO ACR X. I STARTED TO POINT OUT TFC TO ACR Y WHO WANTED FL270, BUT HAD TFC AT FL270 (ACR Z). AS I WAS POINTING OUT HIS TFC, I NOTICED ACR X ALT OF FL287. I IMMEDIATELY ASKED HIS ALT. HE RPTED HE WAS LEVEL AT FL290. ADEP WENT OFF BTWN ACR X AND Y. NEXT, I SEE ACR Y ALT AT FL278. I ASKED HIM TO VERIFY LEVEL AT FL280 AND HE REPLIED HE HAD A TCASII ALERT AND WAS DSNDING. I IMMEDIATELY TOLD HIM THAT ACR X ABOVE HIM WAS LEVEL AT FL290 AND TO CLB BACK UP TO FL280. THE ADEP DID NOT GO OFF BTWN ACR Y AND ACR Z AS THERE WAS ABOUT 5-6 MI SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.