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Pilot of small transport twin lost communication with bur TRACON over sna airport before regaining radio communication and frequency for sna TRACON.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 197870 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199112 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sna |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : bur tracon : sna tower : sna |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 3450 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 197870 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation other |
Narrative:
En route from vny to myf (san diego) on IFR flight plan (in VFR conditions), following bur G9 routing, in cruise at assigned altitude of 7000 ft, proceeding south on pom 164 degree radial according to clearance, in touch with burbank departure. I expected handoff to coast approach, but never received it. Bur controller busy. By the time I called him back and asked about handoff, I was deep in coast airspace without contact. I think burbank controller forgot about me or was otherwise distracted and he was unable to give me a coast frequency to call. So I looked up one on the santa ana approach plate since I was over that airport, made contact, another handoff, and then finally the correct controller for my position. I don't think they were expecting me either. Suspect my identify fell through the cracks. Flight progressed to myf -- no problem after that. Estimate lost time of radio contact 5-10 mins.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF SMT TWIN LOST COM WITH BUR TRACON OVER SNA ARPT BEFORE REGAINING RADIO COM AND FREQ FOR SNA TRACON.
Narrative: ENRTE FROM VNY TO MYF (SAN DIEGO) ON IFR FLT PLAN (IN VFR CONDITIONS), FOLLOWING BUR G9 RTING, IN CRUISE AT ASSIGNED ALT OF 7000 FT, PROCEEDING S ON POM 164 DEG RADIAL ACCORDING TO CLRNC, IN TOUCH WITH BURBANK DEP. I EXPECTED HDOF TO COAST APCH, BUT NEVER RECEIVED IT. BUR CTLR BUSY. BY THE TIME I CALLED HIM BACK AND ASKED ABOUT HDOF, I WAS DEEP IN COAST AIRSPACE WITHOUT CONTACT. I THINK BURBANK CTLR FORGOT ABOUT ME OR WAS OTHERWISE DISTRACTED AND HE WAS UNABLE TO GIVE ME A COAST FREQ TO CALL. SO I LOOKED UP ONE ON THE SANTA ANA APCH PLATE SINCE I WAS OVER THAT ARPT, MADE CONTACT, ANOTHER HDOF, AND THEN FINALLY THE CORRECT CTLR FOR MY POS. I DON'T THINK THEY WERE EXPECTING ME EITHER. SUSPECT MY IDENT FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS. FLT PROGRESSED TO MYF -- NO PROBLEM AFTER THAT. ESTIMATE LOST TIME OF RADIO CONTACT 5-10 MINS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.