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Close proximity coast guard helicopter on search operation and a commuter small transport amphib on takeoff run.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 195241 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199111 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : x44 |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 195241 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2100 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 195274 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : far other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 10 vertical : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
About 1/2 way into our takeoff run from govt cut in miami a united states coast guard helicopter flew over us. His rotor downwash gave us control problems. At this time I came on the controls to help my copilot. After regaining control, and well clear of the helicopter we continued the takeoff and completed the flight as normal. During the takeoff we did underfly the helicopter. This is because he slowed down, and I also felt that I needed power to maintain ctlability. Aborting the takeoff would have caused the airplane to hit the left bank of govt cut. I feel the helicopter could have easily avoided this near miss by not getting as close as he was to me during my takeoff run. I hope we all can work together to promote aviation safety. Supplemental information from acn 195252: while conducting search for survivors of a boating accident, flew east along the northern side of a major waterway. Flew past a commercial amphibious turboprop taxiing south on ramp on north side of waterway. Advised crew to watch for amphibious to takeoff on south side of waterway and pass us on right side. Attempted contact on 122.8 with negative results. Suspect amphibious crew did not want to wait for separation prior to takeoff. Know crew saw helicopter because I saw them looking at helicopter as they taxied south.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX COAST GUARD HELI ON SEARCH OP AND A COMMUTER SMT AMPHIB ON TKOF RUN.
Narrative: ABOUT 1/2 WAY INTO OUR TKOF RUN FROM GOVT CUT IN MIAMI A UNITED STATES COAST GUARD HELI FLEW OVER US. HIS ROTOR DOWNWASH GAVE US CTL PROBLEMS. AT THIS TIME I CAME ON THE CTLS TO HELP MY COPLT. AFTER REGAINING CTL, AND WELL CLR OF THE HELI WE CONTINUED THE TKOF AND COMPLETED THE FLT AS NORMAL. DURING THE TKOF WE DID UNDERFLY THE HELI. THIS IS BECAUSE HE SLOWED DOWN, AND I ALSO FELT THAT I NEEDED PWR TO MAINTAIN CTLABILITY. ABORTING THE TKOF WOULD HAVE CAUSED THE AIRPLANE TO HIT THE L BANK OF GOVT CUT. I FEEL THE HELI COULD HAVE EASILY AVOIDED THIS NEAR MISS BY NOT GETTING AS CLOSE AS HE WAS TO ME DURING MY TKOF RUN. I HOPE WE ALL CAN WORK TOGETHER TO PROMOTE AVIATION SAFETY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 195252: WHILE CONDUCTING SEARCH FOR SURVIVORS OF A BOATING ACCIDENT, FLEW E ALONG THE NORTHERN SIDE OF A MAJOR WATERWAY. FLEW PAST A COMMERCIAL AMPHIBIOUS TURBOPROP TAXIING S ON RAMP ON N SIDE OF WATERWAY. ADVISED CREW TO WATCH FOR AMPHIBIOUS TO TKOF ON S SIDE OF WATERWAY AND PASS US ON R SIDE. ATTEMPTED CONTACT ON 122.8 WITH NEGATIVE RESULTS. SUSPECT AMPHIBIOUS CREW DID NOT WANT TO WAIT FOR SEPARATION PRIOR TO TKOF. KNOW CREW SAW HELI BECAUSE I SAW THEM LOOKING AT HELI AS THEY TAXIED S.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.