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During check ride by FAA aci, the first officer misunderstood clearance and started approach and descent before approach controller issued clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 188811 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199109 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : rme |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : rme tower : mke |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 600 |
| ASRS Report | 188811 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : regained aircraft control |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
It was an FAA check ride with FAA examiner on board during the sic check ride portion of flight check. While sic was in the procedure turn, the FAA examiner pulled an engine to simulate engine out. While on the approach, I, the PNF per the FAA requests, asked griffis approach to commence the approach as we turned inbound on the procedure turn. Due to radio communication problems, scratchy, broken, poor reception, training distrs, heavy workload, etc, we all thought we heard cleared for the approach, not advise when ready for the approach. I then reconfirmed we were starting the approach, starting our descent to initial approach altitude. Evidently ATC never heard our transmissions. The sic looked at FAA examiner and circling 1 more time to lose more altitude. I advised ATC, never heard confirmation, switched radios, only to catch ATC instruct us to turn left 330 degree climb 6000 ft, you're not cleared for approach. Sic never heard instructions. I took over control of aircraft to comply with instructions immediately. We continued airwork for 1.5 hours after with no other events. FAA liked crew coordination and my decision to take aircraft controls and change radios. All thought cleared for approach based on poor radio reception/transmit.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING CHK RIDE BY FAA ACI, THE FO MISUNDERSTOOD CLRNC AND STARTED APCH AND DSCNT BEFORE APCH CTLR ISSUED CLRNC.
Narrative: IT WAS AN FAA CHK RIDE WITH FAA EXAMINER ON BOARD DURING THE SIC CHK RIDE PORTION OF FLT CHK. WHILE SIC WAS IN THE PROC TURN, THE FAA EXAMINER PULLED AN ENG TO SIMULATE ENG OUT. WHILE ON THE APCH, I, THE PNF PER THE FAA REQUESTS, ASKED GRIFFIS APCH TO COMMENCE THE APCH AS WE TURNED INBOUND ON THE PROC TURN. DUE TO RADIO COM PROBLEMS, SCRATCHY, BROKEN, POOR RECEPTION, TRAINING DISTRS, HVY WORKLOAD, ETC, WE ALL THOUGHT WE HEARD CLRED FOR THE APCH, NOT ADVISE WHEN READY FOR THE APCH. I THEN RECONFIRMED WE WERE STARTING THE APCH, STARTING OUR DSCNT TO INITIAL APCH ALT. EVIDENTLY ATC NEVER HEARD OUR TRANSMISSIONS. THE SIC LOOKED AT FAA EXAMINER AND CIRCLING 1 MORE TIME TO LOSE MORE ALT. I ADVISED ATC, NEVER HEARD CONFIRMATION, SWITCHED RADIOS, ONLY TO CATCH ATC INSTRUCT US TO TURN L 330 DEG CLB 6000 FT, YOU'RE NOT CLRED FOR APCH. SIC NEVER HEARD INSTRUCTIONS. I TOOK OVER CTL OF ACFT TO COMPLY WITH INSTRUCTIONS IMMEDIATELY. WE CONTINUED AIRWORK FOR 1.5 HRS AFTER WITH NO OTHER EVENTS. FAA LIKED CREW COORD AND MY DECISION TO TAKE ACFT CTLS AND CHANGE RADIOS. ALL THOUGHT CLRED FOR APCH BASED ON POOR RADIO RECEPTION/XMIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.