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Small aircraft twin atx allegedly cleared to descend to 16000 in area where min en route vectoring is 17000.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 187091 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199108 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : den |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 16000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv tower : tvc |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zdv |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 187091 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The problem arose when descending into den. I was navigating on the che 085 radial to intercept the den 312 to track inbound. I was at FL190 when I understood the controller to clear me to 16000 MSL. As I came out of the cloud I saw long's peak (elevation approximately 14400 ft). I asked for the altimeter setting and made the comment that the hill looked awfully close. I am sure that I was told to maintain 16000 ft. Min vectoring altitude for the area is 17000 MSL. Upon contact with denver approach I was told to call denver center on the ground. Situational awareness (knowing where you are) would have helped, as would being especially careful to listen to and read back all clrncs and pay attention to what they area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA TWIN ATX ALLEGEDLY CLRED TO DSND TO 16000 IN AREA WHERE MIN ENRTE VECTORING IS 17000.
Narrative: THE PROBLEM AROSE WHEN DSNDING INTO DEN. I WAS NAVIGATING ON THE CHE 085 RADIAL TO INTERCEPT THE DEN 312 TO TRACK INBOUND. I WAS AT FL190 WHEN I UNDERSTOOD THE CTLR TO CLR ME TO 16000 MSL. AS I CAME OUT OF THE CLOUD I SAW LONG'S PEAK (ELEVATION APPROX 14400 FT). I ASKED FOR THE ALTIMETER SETTING AND MADE THE COMMENT THAT THE HILL LOOKED AWFULLY CLOSE. I AM SURE THAT I WAS TOLD TO MAINTAIN 16000 FT. MIN VECTORING ALT FOR THE AREA IS 17000 MSL. UPON CONTACT WITH DENVER APCH I WAS TOLD TO CALL DENVER CENTER ON THE GND. SITUATIONAL AWARENESS (KNOWING WHERE YOU ARE) WOULD HAVE HELPED, AS WOULD BEING ESPECIALLY CAREFUL TO LISTEN TO AND READ BACK ALL CLRNCS AND PAY ATTN TO WHAT THEY AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.