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Flight crew of medium large transport inserted wrong route for over water flight, drifted into oceanic route and lost communication with ZNY.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 183465 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199107 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ecg |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : msp |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic enroute airway : r763 enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 4900 |
| ASRS Report | 183465 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
In the vicinity of orf, washington center asked where we were going. I replied to the bacus intersection. He said he did not show that as our flight plan, but that the route we had would be fine. The 3 of us had a conversation in the cockpit and determined the captain had entered the wrong route in the FMC. He elected to continue on the route he had originally entered. Unfortunately this brought us approximately 425 NM off the coast line, well beyond the certified limit. In the vicinity of the bacus intersection, washington center advised us to switch to new york oceanic giving us the HF frequencys. As we had no HF radio we asked for the arinc frequency which they forwarded. Unable to make contact on arinc we tried to call washington back but could not. We then contacted another airline's flight which relayed position reports to new york oceanic until miami center gained radar contact with us in the vicinity of foord intersection in the caribbean. The flight proceeded without incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF MLG INSERTED WRONG ROUTE FOR OVER WATER FLT, DRIFTED INTO OCEANIC RTE AND LOST COM WITH ZNY.
Narrative: IN THE VICINITY OF ORF, WASHINGTON CENTER ASKED WHERE WE WERE GOING. I REPLIED TO THE BACUS INTXN. HE SAID HE DID NOT SHOW THAT AS OUR FLT PLAN, BUT THAT THE RTE WE HAD WOULD BE FINE. THE 3 OF US HAD A CONVERSATION IN THE COCKPIT AND DETERMINED THE CAPT HAD ENTERED THE WRONG RTE IN THE FMC. HE ELECTED TO CONTINUE ON THE ROUTE HE HAD ORIGINALLY ENTERED. UNFORTUNATELY THIS BROUGHT US APPROX 425 NM OFF THE COAST LINE, WELL BEYOND THE CERTIFIED LIMIT. IN THE VICINITY OF THE BACUS INTXN, WASHINGTON CENTER ADVISED US TO SWITCH TO NEW YORK OCEANIC GIVING US THE HF FREQS. AS WE HAD NO HF RADIO WE ASKED FOR THE ARINC FREQ WHICH THEY FORWARDED. UNABLE TO MAKE CONTACT ON ARINC WE TRIED TO CALL WASHINGTON BACK BUT COULD NOT. WE THEN CONTACTED ANOTHER AIRLINE'S FLT WHICH RELAYED POS RPTS TO NEW YORK OCEANIC UNTIL MIAMI CENTER GAINED RADAR CONTACT WITH US IN THE VICINITY OF FOORD INTXN IN THE CARIBBEAN. THE FLT PROCEEDED WITHOUT INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.