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Commuer first officer complains that he does not understand the legal definition of duty time, because he may have gone four-tenths hours over his maximum.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 180785 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199106 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 1100 |
| ASRS Report | 180785 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
It is a gray area to me, the company and FAA in which you are 'legal to start, you're legal to finish.' I recently flew 34.4 hours in 7 days. However, before I started the trip I was legal time-wise with the amount of time the trip was blocked for. The second day of the trip I accumulated 28.3 hours (with the start of the second day). The second day was blocked for 6.1 hours which put me at 34.4. Am I legal because I flew over trip block? Or does it go by the day in which I exceeded 34 hours by .4? I believe it must be clearly written how this must be interpreted. I've asked the opinion of 3 experienced capts, all of whom gave me different interpretations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUER FO COMPLAINS THAT HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF DUTY TIME, BECAUSE HE MAY HAVE GONE FOUR-TENTHS HOURS OVER HIS MAXIMUM.
Narrative: IT IS A GRAY AREA TO ME, THE COMPANY AND FAA IN WHICH YOU ARE 'LEGAL TO START, YOU'RE LEGAL TO FINISH.' I RECENTLY FLEW 34.4 HRS IN 7 DAYS. HOWEVER, BEFORE I STARTED THE TRIP I WAS LEGAL TIME-WISE WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME THE TRIP WAS BLOCKED FOR. THE SECOND DAY OF THE TRIP I ACCUMULATED 28.3 HRS (WITH THE START OF THE SECOND DAY). THE SECOND DAY WAS BLOCKED FOR 6.1 HRS WHICH PUT ME AT 34.4. AM I LEGAL BECAUSE I FLEW OVER TRIP BLOCK? OR DOES IT GO BY THE DAY IN WHICH I EXCEEDED 34 HRS BY .4? I BELIEVE IT MUST BE CLEARLY WRITTEN HOW THIS MUST BE INTERPRETED. I'VE ASKED THE OPINION OF 3 EXPERIENCED CAPTS, ALL OF WHOM GAVE ME DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.