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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1756995 |
| Time | |
| Date | 202008 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.TRACON |
| State Reference | US |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying First Officer |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
As pilot flying we departed on runway xxl; normal takeoff. As we reached acceleration altitude I reduced power to climb and stated 'climb.' as I said this the captain started his check in with departure. I waited for him to finish the call and stated 'climb' again. At this point I saw the hook coming up and safe speed was gone. I said something to the nature of we are below flap speed; lowering the nose and accelerating. The hook immediately started going back down; climb never stopped. We made our departure altitudes and continued climb.this all came together at once. The pm was making a call and I believe he mistook what I said. It was clearly a miscommunication. The captain had mentioned before we left the gate that he had not flown recently; this probably also played a role. We were in a light weight airliner and the climb and acceleration were quicker than we see with full aircraft.for myself I will delay the power call until there is a break in radio calls. Out of habit we pull the power and say climb.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier flight crew reported a miscommunication during initial climb in a lightly-loaded aircraft resulted in retracting the flaps prematurely.
Narrative: As pilot flying we departed on Runway XXL; normal takeoff. As we reached acceleration altitude I reduced power to climb and stated 'climb.' As I said this the Captain started his check in with departure. I waited for him to finish the call and stated 'climb' again. At this point I saw the hook coming up and safe speed was gone. I said something to the nature of we are below flap speed; lowering the nose and accelerating. The hook immediately started going back down; climb never stopped. We made our departure altitudes and continued climb.This all came together at once. The PM was making a call and I believe he mistook what I said. It was clearly a miscommunication. The Captain had mentioned before we left the gate that he had not flown recently; this probably also played a role. We were in a light weight airliner and the climb and acceleration were quicker than we see with full aircraft.For myself I will delay the power call until there is a break in radio calls. Out of habit we pull the power and say climb.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.