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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 174886 | 
| Time | |
| Date | 199104 | 
| Day | Tue | 
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 | 
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : srp airport : phx  | 
| State Reference | AZ | 
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 12800  | 
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC | 
| Light | Night | 
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny | 
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier | 
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng | 
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other  | 
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : phx  | 
| Flight Plan | IFR | 
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier | 
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic  | 
| Qualification | pilot : atp | 
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 9000  | 
| ASRS Report | 174886 | 
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier | 
| Function | flight crew : first officer | 
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial  | 
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance  | 
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa | 
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact | 
| Consequence | Other | 
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance | 
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation | 
Narrative:
We were having difficulty understanding communications at times all the way from dfw. I understood the clearance descending for landing at phx to be, 'maintain 11000'.' I started the descent early enough, but kept a comfortable rate of descent. We were on the totec 6 arrival to phx. At about 32 DME I questioned the first officer about the clearance to be sure that it was to maintain 11000'. He said we were to cross elloy at 11000'. I immediately closed throttles and deployed speed brakes. We crossed elloy at 12800' and were level at 11000' at 23 DME. Next time I will make sure I heard what I thought I heard. No other aircraft were seen or heard in vicinity.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG IN AN ALT DEVIATION ALT UNDERSHOT IN CROSSING RESTRICTION ON STAR ARR.
Narrative: WE WERE HAVING DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING COMS AT TIMES ALL THE WAY FROM DFW. I UNDERSTOOD THE CLRNC DSNDING FOR LNDG AT PHX TO BE, 'MAINTAIN 11000'.' I STARTED THE DSNT EARLY ENOUGH, BUT KEPT A COMFORTABLE RATE OF DSNT. WE WERE ON THE TOTEC 6 ARR TO PHX. AT ABOUT 32 DME I QUESTIONED THE F/O ABOUT THE CLRNC TO BE SURE THAT IT WAS TO MAINTAIN 11000'. HE SAID WE WERE TO CROSS ELLOY AT 11000'. I IMMEDIATELY CLOSED THROTTLES AND DEPLOYED SPD BRAKES. WE CROSSED ELLOY AT 12800' AND WERE LEVEL AT 11000' AT 23 DME. NEXT TIME I WILL MAKE SURE I HEARD WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD. NO OTHER ACFT WERE SEEN OR HEARD IN VICINITY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.