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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1746834 |
| Time | |
| Date | 202006 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.ARTCC |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | PC-12 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Instructor Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 173.9 Flight Crew Total 1022.7 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict NMAC Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
| Miss Distance | Horizontal 1 Vertical 400 |
Narrative:
After taking off out of ZZZ; we changed back over to center after executing the published missed approach; as directed. When we switched over; center immediately called us to advise us of a pc-12 that was trying to get into ZZZ. Giving that we were in their way; I'm sure they were frustrated to be holding. Center asked if we could change plans and hold north. With a day two instrument student; I decided it would be best to just simply get our clearance to the next airport; being ZZZ1. The controller gave us a direct clearance and to maintain 4;000 ft. When activated; we began our turn and the student and I both spotted a multi engine climbing towards us. At this point we were at the same altitude with no separation; and the traffic was not reported to us before the amended clearance. With this; I told the student to climb; and climb fast. We climbed out of clearance 300 ft.; and provided ourselves the separation we needed not to collide with the multi-engine. This decision was made in the interest of safety and traffic avoidance. Even with us climbing out of clearance; we roughly only had 400-600 ft. Of clearance between us. After continuing on to ZZZ1; we were told 'possible pilot deviation' and to copy down a number. Once landed at ZZZ2; I called; and [name] apologized for what happened and after two supervisors reviewing the radar and audio; he believed we made the best decision; assuring us he was on our side; and told me he was happy we were safe. He also added that the reason the number was given; was for quality control of his center.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA-28 Instructor reported an NMAC event while complying with ATC departure instruction.
Narrative: After taking off out of ZZZ; we changed back over to center after executing the published missed approach; as directed. When we switched over; center immediately called us to advise us of a PC-12 that was trying to get into ZZZ. Giving that we were in their way; I'm sure they were frustrated to be holding. Center asked if we could change plans and hold north. With a day two instrument student; I decided it would be best to just simply get our clearance to the next airport; being ZZZ1. The controller gave us a direct clearance and to maintain 4;000 ft. When activated; we began our turn and the student and I both spotted a multi engine climbing towards us. At this point we were at the same altitude with no separation; and the traffic was not reported to us before the amended clearance. With this; I told the student to climb; and climb fast. We climbed out of clearance 300 ft.; and provided ourselves the separation we needed not to collide with the multi-engine. This decision was made in the interest of safety and traffic avoidance. Even with us climbing out of clearance; we roughly only had 400-600 ft. of clearance between us. After continuing on to ZZZ1; we were told 'possible pilot deviation' and to copy down a number. Once landed at ZZZ2; I called; and [name] apologized for what happened and after two supervisors reviewing the radar and audio; he believed we made the best decision; assuring us he was on our side; and told me he was happy we were safe. He also added that the reason the number was given; was for quality control of his center.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.