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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1732696 |
| Time | |
| Date | 202002 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZLC.ARTCC |
| State Reference | UT |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 170/175 ER/LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
On slc 124.35 we slowed to .72 to climb to 360 for the performance charts as it was reported smoother; when we reached FL360 we began getting mountain wave. It increased to moderate chop and we fell below green dot I had my first officer (first officer) advise ATC we needed to descend. They said not now; I came on and said 'we needed to descend immediately' they gave us a heading and still wouldn't descend I advised my first officer if we need to descend; we will but we were well above the stick shaker. If needed I would have declared and emergency and initiated a descent.when an aircraft says they 'need to descend immediately' that should be taken by ATC as immediate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB-175 Captain reported a communication breakdown with ATC regarding an immediate request for a lower altitude.
Narrative: On SLC 124.35 we slowed to .72 to climb to 360 for the performance charts as it was reported smoother; when we reached FL360 we began getting mountain wave. It increased to moderate chop and we fell below green dot I had my FO (First Officer) advise ATC we needed to descend. They said not now; I came on and said 'we needed to descend immediately' they gave us a heading and still wouldn't descend I advised my FO if we need to descend; we will but we were well above the stick shaker. If needed I would have declared and emergency and initiated a descent.When an aircraft says they 'need to descend immediately' that should be taken by ATC as immediate.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.