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First officer of air carrier medium large transport claims the flight crew could not see a commuter aircraft in the holding even after ATCT local controller told them it was there.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 169775 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199102 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bos |
| State Reference | MA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 169775 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On taxiing for takeoff in bos on runway 27 at night, as we approached the holding area we called #1 for takeoff. Tower replied, 'you are #2 behind a commuter.' we said again that no one else was there and we were #1. The commuter then called and said he was ready on 27. He was parked off to the right edge of the holding area. With all the white runway lights, city lights, boat lights and no red rotating beacon, this commuter was next to invisible.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF ACR MLG CLAIMS THE FLT CREW COULD NOT SEE A COMMUTER ACFT IN THE HOLDING EVEN AFTER ATCT LCL CTLR TOLD THEM IT WAS THERE.
Narrative: ON TAXIING FOR TKOF IN BOS ON RWY 27 AT NIGHT, AS WE APCHED THE HOLDING AREA WE CALLED #1 FOR TKOF. TWR REPLIED, 'YOU ARE #2 BEHIND A COMMUTER.' WE SAID AGAIN THAT NO ONE ELSE WAS THERE AND WE WERE #1. THE COMMUTER THEN CALLED AND SAID HE WAS READY ON 27. HE WAS PARKED OFF TO THE RIGHT EDGE OF THE HOLDING AREA. WITH ALL THE WHITE RWY LIGHTS, CITY LIGHTS, BOAT LIGHTS AND NO RED ROTATING BEACON, THIS COMMUTER WAS NEXT TO INVISIBLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.