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B757-200 pilot reported being vectored out of and under class bravo airspace; causing a possible violation of the 200 knot speed limit.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1687574 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201909 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | N90.TRACON |
| State Reference | NY |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
This is minor but did not seem right. We were being vectored to an ILS [runway] 22L at jfk. Over farmingdale (frg) at 4;000 feet; we were cleared to descend to 3;000 feet. The class B floor here is 4;000 feet. I have flown this pattern countless times. Normally we are kept in the class B airspace. I said to the first officer we need to slow to 200 kts. As I am trying to get a word in on the frequency to tell the controller we were slowing he called us and assigned us 200 kts. I suspect this was to comply with the speed limit. So; yes; for a moment we were in excess of 200 knots below the class B floor. What bothers me here is why were we assigned an altitude below the class B when it was not really necessary. If a controller takes you out of the class B shouldn't you be advised? The frequency was too busy to ask questions.not sure. Ask new york TRACON. Next time I'll ask to remain in the class B.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757-200 pilot reported being vectored out of and under Class Bravo airspace; causing a possible violation of the 200 knot speed limit.
Narrative: This is minor but did not seem right. We were being vectored to an ILS [Runway] 22L at JFK. Over Farmingdale (FRG) at 4;000 feet; we were cleared to descend to 3;000 feet. The Class B floor here is 4;000 feet. I have flown this pattern countless times. Normally we are kept in the Class B airspace. I said to the First Officer we need to slow to 200 kts. As I am trying to get a word in on the frequency to tell the Controller we were slowing he called us and assigned us 200 kts. I suspect this was to comply with the speed limit. So; yes; for a moment we were in excess of 200 knots below the Class B floor. What bothers me here is why were we assigned an altitude below the Class B when it was not really necessary. If a Controller takes you out of the Class B shouldn't you be advised? The frequency was too busy to ask questions.Not sure. Ask New York TRACON. Next time I'll ask to remain in the Class B.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.