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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1669542 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201907 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | SEA.Airport |
| State Reference | WA |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 181 Flight Crew Total 17141 Flight Crew Type 6902 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Our pre departure clearance had a revised segment clearing us from jefpo to zadon; removing jefpo; then on course 343; expect radar vectors on course. The remarks segment of the pre departure clearance; however; had a remark 'after jefpo expect rv on course.' as these two statements were clearly contradictory; we contacted clearance delivery for clarification. ATC did want us to fly the 343 after jefpo. I only bring this up as it could lead a crew to fly the revised segment vs 343 on the SID.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air Carrier Captain reported confusing remarks in the PDC clearance.
Narrative: Our PDC had a revised segment clearing us from JEFPO to ZADON; removing JEFPO; then on course 343; EXPECT RADAR Vectors on course. The remarks segment of the PDC; however; had a remark 'AFTER JEFPO EXPECT RV ON COURSE.' As these two statements were clearly contradictory; we contacted clearance delivery for clarification. ATC did want us to fly the 343 after JEFPO. I only bring this up as it could lead a crew to fly the revised segment vs 343 on the SID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.