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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||0001 To 0600|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : teb|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Controlling Facilities||tower : geg|
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer|
|Flight Phase||ground other : taxi|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : commercial|
pilot : instrument
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 300|
flight time total : 2000
flight time type : 550
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : local|
|Qualification||controller : non radar|
|Anomaly||incursion : runway|
non adherence : far
non adherence : published procedure
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
Air carrier X was on the final landing of a regular schedule cargo flight teb-iag-teb. I was handed off to tower by new york approach 10 mi northwest of field and cleared to land on runway 1 is approach. I configured and made an uneventful landing. 5500' down runway one is the intersection of runway 6 which would normally at this time of night be used as a taxi route to our ramp, ie, runway 6 left turn at bravo to the unless further clearance to taxi is given I will stop on runway 1 and ask for taxi instructions as per above. On this night I stopped on runway 1 but before I could transmit tower said with no aircraft identify just 'long landing not approved.' note I am down and at a full stop. I then asked 'sir air carrier X is down and stopped are you referring to us.' he replied again 'long landing not approved.' at this point I feared another aircraft who may have also been cleared to land more than 10 mi away, before I came on frequency was now landing on runway 1 which I still rightfully was on. At this point west/O being able to get a straight answer from tower I vacated on runway 6 to avoid what I believed to be an eminent collision. Since I could not see 180 degree behind me at the time, I felt it better to take an evasive action rather than argue with a situation developing. The tower then asked me why I taxied out onto an active runway. He would give no further insights as to my questions. Why say long landing not approved even if it was for me as I was down and stopped and have the right to use the whole runway if needed. Why didn't he use correct radio phraseology and specify who with a call sign so that I would not believe there was another aircraft behind me. If runway 6 is normal taxi route for all aircraft over 1 yr that I have been there (with no other traffic) then why tonight is he upset about disregarding standard local procedures. (Answer, get tower training personnel to more closely monitor their students) and stop watching tv like I heard in backgnd.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X UNAUTH RWY ENTRY.
Narrative: ACR X WAS ON THE FINAL LNDG OF A REGULAR SCHEDULE CARGO FLT TEB-IAG-TEB. I WAS HANDED OFF TO TWR BY NEW YORK APCH 10 MI NW OF FIELD AND CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 1 IS APCH. I CONFIGURED AND MADE AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG. 5500' DOWN RWY ONE IS THE INTXN OF RWY 6 WHICH WOULD NORMALLY AT THIS TIME OF NIGHT BE USED AS A TAXI RTE TO OUR RAMP, IE, RWY 6 L TURN AT BRAVO TO THE UNLESS FURTHER CLRNC TO TAXI IS GIVEN I WILL STOP ON RWY 1 AND ASK FOR TAXI INSTRUCTIONS AS PER ABOVE. ON THIS NIGHT I STOPPED ON RWY 1 BUT BEFORE I COULD XMIT TWR SAID WITH NO ACFT IDENT JUST 'LONG LNDG NOT APPROVED.' NOTE I AM DOWN AND AT A FULL STOP. I THEN ASKED 'SIR ACR X IS DOWN AND STOPPED ARE YOU REFERRING TO US.' HE REPLIED AGAIN 'LONG LNDG NOT APPROVED.' AT THIS POINT I FEARED ANOTHER ACFT WHO MAY HAVE ALSO BEEN CLRED TO LAND MORE THAN 10 MI AWAY, BEFORE I CAME ON FREQ WAS NOW LNDG ON RWY 1 WHICH I STILL RIGHTFULLY WAS ON. AT THIS POINT W/O BEING ABLE TO GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER FROM TWR I VACATED ON RWY 6 TO AVOID WHAT I BELIEVED TO BE AN EMINENT COLLISION. SINCE I COULD NOT SEE 180 DEG BEHIND ME AT THE TIME, I FELT IT BETTER TO TAKE AN EVASIVE ACTION RATHER THAN ARGUE WITH A SITUATION DEVELOPING. THE TWR THEN ASKED ME WHY I TAXIED OUT ONTO AN ACTIVE RWY. HE WOULD GIVE NO FURTHER INSIGHTS AS TO MY QUESTIONS. WHY SAY LONG LNDG NOT APPROVED EVEN IF IT WAS FOR ME AS I WAS DOWN AND STOPPED AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THE WHOLE RWY IF NEEDED. WHY DIDN'T HE USE CORRECT RADIO PHRASEOLOGY AND SPECIFY WHO WITH A CALL SIGN SO THAT I WOULD NOT BELIEVE THERE WAS ANOTHER ACFT BEHIND ME. IF RWY 6 IS NORMAL TAXI RTE FOR ALL ACFT OVER 1 YR THAT I HAVE BEEN THERE (WITH NO OTHER TFC) THEN WHY TONIGHT IS HE UPSET ABOUT DISREGARDING STANDARD LCL PROCS. (ANSWER, GET TWR TRNING PERSONNEL TO MORE CLOSELY MONITOR THEIR STUDENTS) AND STOP WATCHING TV LIKE I HEARD IN BACKGND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.