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Cpr small transport flight crew complaint that smf did not NOTAM glide slope out of service. FBO says glide slope not always working. This is a relatively new navigation aid.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 159233 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199010 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sfm |
| State Reference | ME |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 680 msl bound upper : 2300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : psm tower : ggg |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 159233 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The ILS 07 at sfm was recently commissioned. Communication chart maker has distributed the approach plate. Preparing for the flight, I check NOTAMS. The only NOTAM for sfm concerns the missed approach (it's attached). Upon being vectored for the approach, pease approach informed us that it would be a localizer approach. I questioned this--I was expecting an ILS. At the time there was no longer time to discuss this was approach, so we quickly replanned a localizer approach and landed. I asked the people at the FBO about the ILS and they said sometimes it's working and sometimes it isn't. If it's not working it should (must) be notamed out. This makes a difference to me. Had I known the ILS was OTS before I left, I would have planned another destination (portland, me). The WX was low that morning, ok for an ILS but close to marginal for a localizer approach. FAA needs to NOTAM the G/south OTS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR SMT FLT CREW COMPLAINT THAT SMF DID NOT NOTAM GLIDE SLOPE OUT OF SERVICE. FBO SAYS GLIDE SLOPE NOT ALWAYS WORKING. THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW NAVIGATION AID.
Narrative: THE ILS 07 AT SFM WAS RECENTLY COMMISSIONED. COM CHART MAKER HAS DISTRIBUTED THE APCH PLATE. PREPARING FOR THE FLT, I CHK NOTAMS. THE ONLY NOTAM FOR SFM CONCERNS THE MISSED APCH (IT'S ATTACHED). UPON BEING VECTORED FOR THE APCH, PEASE APCH INFORMED US THAT IT WOULD BE A LOC APCH. I QUESTIONED THIS--I WAS EXPECTING AN ILS. AT THE TIME THERE WAS NO LONGER TIME TO DISCUSS THIS WAS APCH, SO WE QUICKLY REPLANNED A LOC APCH AND LANDED. I ASKED THE PEOPLE AT THE FBO ABOUT THE ILS AND THEY SAID SOMETIMES IT'S WORKING AND SOMETIMES IT ISN'T. IF IT'S NOT WORKING IT SHOULD (MUST) BE NOTAMED OUT. THIS MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO ME. HAD I KNOWN THE ILS WAS OTS BEFORE I LEFT, I WOULD HAVE PLANNED ANOTHER DEST (PORTLAND, ME). THE WX WAS LOW THAT MORNING, OK FOR AN ILS BUT CLOSE TO MARGINAL FOR A LOC APCH. FAA NEEDS TO NOTAM THE G/S OTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.