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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1592006 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201811 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZLC.ARTCC |
| State Reference | UT |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Enroute |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 7 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Big sky approach often doesn't take handoffs in a timely manner; this was one instance; where the aircraft may have even been within 2.5 miles of their airspace; descending via. Their excuse is that they don't have to take the hand off until he's 8 miles from the airspace; which on a descend via could put the aircraft in with terrain if we're forced to turn them to miss the airspace. This happens all the time - constantly. It's unsafe; it's unprofessional; it's everything wrong with descend via clearances and big sky's attitude toward the NAS; toward safety. I have heard of some facilities that have an automatic handoff acceptance point. It may just be an urban legend; but that would fix this set of problems we have; nearly daily; with big sky. Descend via clearances are dangerous to the NAS; we had that concern years ago when they were forced on us at boi.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Salt Lake Center Controller reported a problem with Big Sky Approach not accepting a hand-off in a timely manner.
Narrative: Big Sky Approach often doesn't take handoffs in a timely manner; this was one instance; where the aircraft may have even been within 2.5 miles of their airspace; descending via. Their excuse is that they don't have to take the hand off until he's 8 miles from the airspace; which on a descend via could put the aircraft in with terrain if we're forced to turn them to miss the airspace. This happens all the time - constantly. It's unsafe; it's unprofessional; it's everything wrong with descend via clearances and Big Sky's attitude toward the NAS; toward safety. I have heard of some facilities that have an automatic handoff acceptance point. It may just be an urban legend; but that would fix this set of problems we have; nearly daily; with Big Sky. Descend via clearances are dangerous to the NAS; we had that concern years ago when they were forced on us at BOI.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.