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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1578620 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201809 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZID.ARTCC |
| State Reference | IN |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | PA-46 Malibu/Malibu Mirage/Malibu Matrix |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | UAV - Unpiloted Aerial Vehicle |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Enroute |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 13 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict NMAC Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural FAR |
Narrative:
Aircraft X was level at FL210 and asked me if there was any known drone activity in the area. I responded; 'negative; why?' his response was; 'we just went right by one. It was big and black'. I asked the pilot if it was the type with 4 rotors to which he responded affirmative. I had an aircraft climbing in that same general area so I reported it to him two times. Upon leaving my sector the climbing aircraft said he never saw it. I immediately reported it to the flm [front line manager] and he proceeded to do his checklist and paperwork. Approximately 5 min after the incident the flm had me ask the pilot if he could tell what direction the uav was traveling and if he considered it to be a near miss. The pilot said it appeared to be hovering in one spot and that he came within approximately 50 feet of it; and he definitely considered it a near miss. I looked the situation up in the 7110.65 later and discover that advisories are supposed to be broadcast every 4 min after the last report; similar to a laser event. We have not had proper training on uav activity so I was unaware of this requirement. [Recommend] proper training on unauthorized uav activity.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Indianapolis Center Controller reported an NMAC between a Piper and a drone; and also failure on Controller's report to broadcast for 15 minutes afterward.
Narrative: Aircraft X was level at FL210 and asked me if there was any known drone activity in the area. I responded; 'Negative; why?' His response was; 'We just went right by one. It was big and black'. I asked the pilot if it was the type with 4 rotors to which he responded affirmative. I had an aircraft climbing in that same general area so I reported it to him two times. Upon leaving my sector the climbing aircraft said he never saw it. I immediately reported it to the FLM [Front Line Manager] and he proceeded to do his checklist and paperwork. Approximately 5 min after the incident the FLM had me ask the pilot if he could tell what direction the UAV was traveling and if he considered it to be a near miss. The pilot said it appeared to be hovering in one spot and that he came within approximately 50 feet of it; and he definitely considered it a near miss. I looked the situation up in the 7110.65 later and discover that advisories are supposed to be broadcast every 4 min after the last report; similar to a laser event. We have not had proper training on UAV activity so I was unaware of this requirement. [Recommend] proper training on unauthorized UAV activity.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.