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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 155146 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199008 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : bos |
| State Reference | MA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7800 msl bound upper : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : bos |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 12000 |
| ASRS Report | 155146 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 5500 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X climbing out on the logan 7 departure from runway 22L being vectored by bos departure control. We were turned westbound (heading 270 degrees) and cleared to 8000'. Departure indicated there was air carrier Y descending into bos, descending to 9000'. Approximately 8-10 south of logan, air carrier Y crossed in front of us as departure control simultaneously told us to look for traffic crossing left to right descending to 9000' and 'less than a mile.' I was just landing at 8000' (in fact I was still at about 7800') when air carrier Y crossed directly in front of us on a north heading. He appeared to be much lower than 9000'. I would judge him to have been at or perhaps slightly above my altitude of 7800' when he crossed. I inquired of departure control as to what altitude he was at. The response was that he appeared to have been lower than 9000'. We were then cleared to a higher altitude (14000') and I remarked to the controller that 'that was close!'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR Y DESCENDED UNAUTH DESCENT TO OCCUPIKED ALT HAD LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION WITH ACR X.
Narrative: ACR X CLBING OUT ON THE LOGAN 7 DEP FROM RWY 22L BEING VECTORED BY BOS DEP CTL. WE WERE TURNED WBND (HDG 270 DEGS) AND CLRED TO 8000'. DEP INDICATED THERE WAS ACR Y DSNDING INTO BOS, DSNDING TO 9000'. APPROX 8-10 S OF LOGAN, ACR Y CROSSED IN FRONT OF US AS DEP CTL SIMULTANEOUSLY TOLD US TO LOOK FOR TFC XING LEFT TO RIGHT DSNDING TO 9000' AND 'LESS THAN A MILE.' I WAS JUST LNDG AT 8000' (IN FACT I WAS STILL AT ABOUT 7800') WHEN ACR Y CROSSED DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF US ON A N HDG. HE APPEARED TO BE MUCH LOWER THAN 9000'. I WOULD JUDGE HIM TO HAVE BEEN AT OR PERHAPS SLIGHTLY ABOVE MY ALT OF 7800' WHEN HE CROSSED. I INQUIRED OF DEP CTL AS TO WHAT ALT HE WAS AT. THE RESPONSE WAS THAT HE APPEARED TO HAVE BEEN LOWER THAN 9000'. WE WERE THEN CLRED TO A HIGHER ALT (14000') AND I REMARKED TO THE CTLR THAT 'THAT WAS CLOSE!'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.