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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1533235 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201804 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | CGZ.Airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft Low Wing 1 Eng Fixed Gear |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Route In Use | Other Practice approach |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Instructor |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 124 Flight Crew Total 539 Flight Crew Type 195 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Conflict NMAC |
| Miss Distance | Horizontal 100 Vertical 500 |
Narrative:
I was giving instruction to a student who was flying the GPS approach into cgz runway 5. We were approaching the VOR; which is the approach's final approach fix; at indicated altitude of approximately 4500. I noticed a target on tis (G1000) and or adsb (stratus) which was near the VOR and moving generally from my left to my right at what appeared to show -300 feet. I began looked outside for the aircraft in the area that the tis/adsb suggested. However; I didn't see the aircraft; and I told the student to climb and turn left while I looked for the other aircraft. We climbed to approximately 4800 indicated. The other aircraft asked my altitude and stated he was at 5000 indicated. Then I started looking up; instead of down as I had perceived from tis/adsb; and saw the helicopter at what I visually approximated to be 100 feet above and 500 feet laterally at 0200 o'clock to my position. I was on his right side as he flew past and to the rear of my aircraft at what I estimate to be about a 60 degree angle. After the flight I reflected on the situation; and read the portion of the aim about tis and adsb use; and refreshed my memory that they should not be used for avoidance maneuvering. In the future I will expand my visual search area more quickly; and not maneuver till I have acquired visual contact.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA Flight Instructor reported a NMAC with a helicopter during IFR flight training.
Narrative: I was giving instruction to a student who was flying the GPS approach into CGZ Runway 5. We were approaching the VOR; which is the approach's final approach fix; at indicated altitude of approximately 4500. I noticed a target on TIS (G1000) and or ADSB (stratus) which was near the VOR and moving generally from my left to my right at what appeared to show -300 feet. I began looked outside for the aircraft in the area that the TIS/ADSB suggested. However; I didn't see the aircraft; and I told the student to climb and turn left while I looked for the other aircraft. We climbed to approximately 4800 indicated. The other aircraft asked my altitude and stated he was at 5000 indicated. Then I started looking up; instead of down as I had perceived from TIS/ADSB; and saw the helicopter at what I visually approximated to be 100 feet above and 500 feet laterally at 0200 o'clock to my position. I was on his right side as he flew past and to the rear of my aircraft at what I estimate to be about a 60 degree angle. After the flight I reflected on the situation; and read the portion of the AIM about TIS and ADSB use; and refreshed my memory that they should not be used for avoidance maneuvering. In the future I will expand my visual search area more quickly; and not maneuver till I have acquired visual contact.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.