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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1533213 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201804 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Jet/Long Ranger/206 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | None |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Single Pilot |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 100 Flight Crew Total 9000 Flight Crew Type 7000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict NMAC Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
| Miss Distance | Horizontal 0 Vertical 300 |
Narrative:
The flights were to adjust autorotation RPM. I departed eastbound then asked for a climbing southeast heading to 2500 (class B 3000) where I would enter a power off 60kt glide (2000 fpm). This procedure was done 4 times (3 different aircraft) in less than an hour with each flight lasting 6 to 12 minutes. The airport has a split frequency most of the time with all helicopters and traffic north of the field on 134.6 and traffic south of the field on 118.9. The second flight was a different controller who asked me to contact approach above 2000ft for B airspace. I responded that B started at 3000 so declined to comply. On the forth flight on a east south east heading; on the helicopter frequency descending through 1500ft; a piper cherokee passed directly underneath (300 or less) westbound on the south frequency of 118.9. I inquired to the controller of the traffic who told me to switch to 118.9 for that info. Doing as directed I then had a lengthy discussion with the tower chief over the phone after landing. The piper may have had his vision blinded by the position of the sun. I do not believe he saw us. The north/helicopter controllers sometimes point out traffic to us helicopters when they are not busy with north traffic. I think the procedure should insist that helicopters operate on the south frequency whenever we are approaching or turning that direction especially when climbing above 500 ft. I calculate at my rate of descent I was about 10 to 15 seconds within impact.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Helicopter Pilot reported that while conducting maintenance checks of autorotation a NMAC with another aircraft occurred.
Narrative: The flights were to adjust autorotation RPM. I departed eastbound then asked for a climbing southeast heading to 2500 (class B 3000) where I would enter a power off 60kt glide (2000 fpm). This procedure was done 4 times (3 different aircraft) in less than an hour with each flight lasting 6 to 12 minutes. The airport has a split frequency most of the time with all helicopters and traffic north of the field on 134.6 and traffic south of the field on 118.9. The second flight was a different controller who asked me to contact Approach above 2000ft for B airspace. I responded that B started at 3000 so declined to comply. On the forth flight on a east south east heading; on the helicopter frequency descending through 1500ft; a Piper cherokee passed directly underneath (300 or less) westbound on the south frequency of 118.9. I inquired to the controller of the traffic who told me to switch to 118.9 for that info. Doing as directed I then had a lengthy discussion with the tower chief over the phone after landing. The Piper may have had his vision blinded by the position of the sun. I do not believe he saw us. The N/helicopter controllers sometimes point out traffic to us helicopters when they are not busy with north traffic. I think the procedure should insist that helicopters operate on the south frequency whenever we are approaching or turning that direction especially when climbing above 500 ft. I calculate at my rate of descent I was about 10 to 15 seconds within impact.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.