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Medium large transport flight crew has less than standard separation with small transport. Controller failed to accomplish handoff.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 152110 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199007 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : vny airport : bur |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7500 msl bound upper : 7500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : bur |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 152110 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 152089 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was flying an medium large transport departing bur at XX34 PDT with initial climb clearance to 13000'. We were flying the vny 5 departure SID with initial heading of 210 degrees. We were on departure control frequency of 124.6 and then assigned 320 degrees with no climb restriction. At 2 DME east of vny an small transport passed across our nose at 7500' (the altitude we were passing through). The aircraft was approximately 1 mi or less in front of our nose. Our controller was questioned about the traffic that we were not warned about and he said to contact the next frequency for handoff. Next controller questioned about traffic and he said he had been trying to call us. We had never been handed off! We also had not been given a previous frequency to contact anyone on. Summary: controller error failing to give frequency or handoff or aircraft traffic advisory.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG FLT CREW HAS LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION WITH SMT. CTLR FAILED TO ACCOMPLISH HANDOFF.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING AN MLG DEPARTING BUR AT XX34 PDT WITH INITIAL CLB CLRNC TO 13000'. WE WERE FLYING THE VNY 5 DEP SID WITH INITIAL HDG OF 210 DEGS. WE WERE ON DEP CTL FREQ OF 124.6 AND THEN ASSIGNED 320 DEGS WITH NO CLB RESTRICTION. AT 2 DME E OF VNY AN SMT PASSED ACROSS OUR NOSE AT 7500' (THE ALT WE WERE PASSING THROUGH). THE ACFT WAS APPROX 1 MI OR LESS IN FRONT OF OUR NOSE. OUR CTLR WAS QUESTIONED ABOUT THE TFC THAT WE WERE NOT WARNED ABOUT AND HE SAID TO CONTACT THE NEXT FREQ FOR HDOF. NEXT CTLR QUESTIONED ABOUT TFC AND HE SAID HE HAD BEEN TRYING TO CALL US. WE HAD NEVER BEEN HANDED OFF! WE ALSO HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN A PREVIOUS FREQ TO CONTACT ANYONE ON. SUMMARY: CTLR ERROR FAILING TO GIVE FREQ OR HDOF OR ACFT TFC ADVISORY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.