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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1493524 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201711 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | SNA.Airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
| Route In Use | None |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
| Flight Phase | Landing |
| Route In Use | Visual Approach |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Local |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Aircraft X was upwind in the traffic pattern. Aircraft Y was in the pattern following aircraft X. I was working local control. I anticipated aircraft Y was turning in sooner than the typical pattern so I told aircraft X to start his go around for aircraft Y in trail of him. Aircraft X started his go around and was at approximately 80 feet on the upwind offset left of the runway when the airport surface detection equipment (asde-X) alarmed. The asde-X didn't alarm until aircraft Y had already touched down. Also when the asde-X alarmed it said runway occupied instead of runway go around. I did not issue the go around instructions to aircraft Y because he had already landed and was following thru on his touch and go. The asde-X alarmed when aircraft Y was between taxiways which was much too late for reasonable go around instructions to be issued. The asde-X is a constant problem and go around instructions should not be required due the inaccuracy of the system.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A Tower Controller reported allowing an aircraft to land even though the Airport Surface Detection Equipment (ASDE-X) alarmed for preceding go-around traffic.
Narrative: Aircraft X was upwind in the traffic pattern. Aircraft Y was in the pattern following Aircraft X. I was working Local Control. I anticipated Aircraft Y was turning in sooner than the typical pattern so I told Aircraft X to start his go around for Aircraft Y in trail of him. Aircraft X started his go around and was at approximately 80 feet on the upwind offset left of the runway when the Airport Surface Detection Equipment (ASDE-X) alarmed. The ASDE-X didn't alarm until Aircraft Y had already touched down. Also when the ASDE-X alarmed it said runway occupied instead of runway go around. I did not issue the Go around instructions to Aircraft Y because he had already landed and was following thru on his touch and go. The ASDE-X alarmed when Aircraft Y was between taxiways which was much too late for reasonable go around instructions to be issued. The ASDE-X is a constant problem and go around instructions should not be required due the inaccuracy of the system.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.