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Private small transport and a commuter small transport have close near midair collision just outside the new york TCA.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 147267 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199005 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : teb airport : lga |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1400 msl bound upper : 1400 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 480 flight time type : 60 |
| ASRS Report | 147267 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
I regularly cross bronx eastbound and westbound, departing and arriving teb. On this night I xed the hudson north of the george washington bridge and climbed to 1400'. (The TCA floor is 1500' at this point). About one third across the bronx about yonkers raceway abeam to the north, an small transport passed close astern. I did not see the aircraft until too late to maneuver. He called on 120.8 after a handoff from lga and reported the near miss to the controller. I later spoke to lga tower. I was told that commercial commuter flts are cleared out of lga at 1400' and end up below the TCA over the bronx if there is a delay in the handoff. Corrective action. Lga tower should not assign air altitude less then 1500'. This will give lga aircraft another five mi inside the TCA before exiting a ring to outside the TCA, more time for a handoff. Otherwise, VFR traffic should be advised to fly lower than 1400'. (That is simply assurance the TCA has a floor of 1400' at that point).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PVT SMT AND A COMMUTER SMT HAVE CLOSE NMAC JUST OUTSIDE THE NEW YORK TCA.
Narrative: I REGULARLY CROSS BRONX EBND AND WBND, DEPARTING AND ARRIVING TEB. ON THIS NIGHT I XED THE HUDSON N OF THE GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE AND CLBED TO 1400'. (THE TCA FLOOR IS 1500' AT THIS POINT). ABOUT ONE THIRD ACROSS THE BRONX ABOUT YONKERS RACEWAY ABEAM TO THE N, AN SMT PASSED CLOSE ASTERN. I DID NOT SEE THE ACFT UNTIL TOO LATE TO MANEUVER. HE CALLED ON 120.8 AFTER A HDOF FROM LGA AND RPTED THE NEAR MISS TO THE CTLR. I LATER SPOKE TO LGA TWR. I WAS TOLD THAT COMMERCIAL COMMUTER FLTS ARE CLRED OUT OF LGA AT 1400' AND END UP BELOW THE TCA OVER THE BRONX IF THERE IS A DELAY IN THE HDOF. CORRECTIVE ACTION. LGA TWR SHOULD NOT ASSIGN AIR ALT LESS THEN 1500'. THIS WILL GIVE LGA ACFT ANOTHER FIVE MI INSIDE THE TCA BEFORE EXITING A RING TO OUTSIDE THE TCA, MORE TIME FOR A HDOF. OTHERWISE, VFR TFC SHOULD BE ADVISED TO FLY LOWER THAN 1400'. (THAT IS SIMPLY ASSURANCE THE TCA HAS A FLOOR OF 1400' AT THAT POINT).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.