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Flight crew of air carrier medium large transport on arrival into mia loses communication with ZMA over tpa. New frequency received through company and communication re-established.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 145245 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199005 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : tpa |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 3790 flight time type : 250 |
| ASRS Report | 145245 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were flying the final leg of the day, from day to mia. All was normal on the way down and jacksonville center (or possibly miami) had given us direct to a point along the arrival into miami. This as I recall was just north of tpa. We did this and commenced with obtaining the ATIS, performing our arrival checklist, and making our announcements to the folks in back. What we didn't notice was that we could no longer hear center, just other airplanes. We continued on the arrival unaware of our lost communication until the captain made a comment about how high we were. At that same time we got a message to call miami on 132.4. We switched frequencys and were given a large 360 degree turn to get down. As far as we know, there weren't any complications caused with ATC and we never heard anyone try to raise us over the radio even though we could hear other airplanes the whole time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF ACR MLG ON ARR INTO MIA LOSES COM WITH ZMA OVER TPA. NEW FREQ RECEIVED THROUGH COMPANY AND COM RE-ESTABLISHED.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING THE FINAL LEG OF THE DAY, FROM DAY TO MIA. ALL WAS NORMAL ON THE WAY DOWN AND JACKSONVILLE CTR (OR POSSIBLY MIAMI) HAD GIVEN US DIRECT TO A POINT ALONG THE ARR INTO MIAMI. THIS AS I RECALL WAS JUST N OF TPA. WE DID THIS AND COMMENCED WITH OBTAINING THE ATIS, PERFORMING OUR ARR CHKLIST, AND MAKING OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS TO THE FOLKS IN BACK. WHAT WE DIDN'T NOTICE WAS THAT WE COULD NO LONGER HEAR CTR, JUST OTHER AIRPLANES. WE CONTINUED ON THE ARR UNAWARE OF OUR LOST COM UNTIL THE CAPT MADE A COMMENT ABOUT HOW HIGH WE WERE. AT THAT SAME TIME WE GOT A MESSAGE TO CALL MIAMI ON 132.4. WE SWITCHED FREQS AND WERE GIVEN A LARGE 360 DEG TURN TO GET DOWN. AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THERE WEREN'T ANY COMPLICATIONS CAUSED WITH ATC AND WE NEVER HEARD ANYONE TRY TO RAISE US OVER THE RADIO EVEN THOUGH WE COULD HEAR OTHER AIRPLANES THE WHOLE TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.