Reporter complains that ATC will not permit deviations for WX at jfk.

Attributes
ACN	144319
Time
Date	199004
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jfk
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : jfk tracon : n90
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground other : taxi other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	144319
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Weather
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

Flight taxied in line for over 2 1/2 hours before reaching #1 for takeoff at jfk. Heavy thunderstorms and wind shear were causing the delay. Some aircraft were vectored to the south avoiding large buildups ten mi off the end of runway 4. When we arrived at position #1, we were cleared for takeoff on the condition that we could maintain heading 080 degree for a minimum of 20 mi with no turns. Our WX radar indicated this would take us through a large well contoured cell at 10 mi. We indicated this to the tower and requested a turn to the north or south. They denied this and ordered us to taxi down the runway and go the end of line, now over 40 aircraft long. He then offered the same deal to the aircraft behind us. Two more declined the offer and were sent to the end of the line. One aircraft finally took off and flew through the cell. At this point we returned to the ramp. Before leaving I called the tower and told them I thought their procedure was unsafe. They told me I was disrupting their operation by making these comments on VHF.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: REPORTER COMPLAINS THAT ATC WILL NOT PERMIT DEVIATIONS FOR WX AT JFK.

Narrative: FLT TAXIED IN LINE FOR OVER 2 1/2 HRS BEFORE REACHING #1 FOR TKOF AT JFK. HEAVY TSTMS AND WIND SHEAR WERE CAUSING THE DELAY. SOME ACFT WERE VECTORED TO THE S AVOIDING LARGE BUILDUPS TEN MI OFF THE END OF RWY 4. WHEN WE ARRIVED AT POS #1, WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF ON THE CONDITION THAT WE COULD MAINTAIN HDG 080 DEG FOR A MINIMUM OF 20 MI WITH NO TURNS. OUR WX RADAR INDICATED THIS WOULD TAKE US THROUGH A LARGE WELL CONTOURED CELL AT 10 MI. WE INDICATED THIS TO THE TWR AND REQUESTED A TURN TO THE N OR S. THEY DENIED THIS AND ORDERED US TO TAXI DOWN THE RWY AND GO THE END OF LINE, NOW OVER 40 ACFT LONG. HE THEN OFFERED THE SAME DEAL TO THE ACFT BEHIND US. TWO MORE DECLINED THE OFFER AND WERE SENT TO THE END OF THE LINE. ONE ACFT FINALLY TOOK OFF AND FLEW THROUGH THE CELL. AT THIS POINT WE RETURNED TO THE RAMP. BEFORE LEAVING I CALLED THE TWR AND TOLD THEM I THOUGHT THEIR PROC WAS UNSAFE. THEY TOLD ME I WAS DISRUPTING THEIR OPERATION BY MAKING THESE COMMENTS ON VHF.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.