Sct TRACON controller in charge reported that another controller was having separation problems with...

Narrative:

I was on a control position for nearly an hour and 45 minutes then was told by the controller in charge (controller in charge) to take over his position. I now was controller in charge after a busy session on radar. I went around the room and made sure traffic was not an issue for the controllers. I asked the controller on tustin if he was ok or needed a handoff or spacing from the traffic management unit (tmu) because and average amount of IFR traffic was coming in. He declined. After about 10 min I heard this controller make comments that alerted me to a problem. When I went to the sector I noticed the citation making a left turn into an MVA and alerted the controller to it. I asked what was wrong and he said some issue with a VFR military helo not communicating near his arrival final to sna. At that point I alerted him to another IFR arrival on final nearing the VFR helo; he tried to take action to turn the aircraft. He then said the citation had an RA. I am not sure if the other aircraft involved had RA.staffing problems and no supervisors when needed. Controller should have asked for help earlier or resolved the potential conflict earlier before it became complex. Don't take a controller who has already been on a busy position off that one and make them controller in charge or to another position for that matter.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SCT TRACON Controller in Charge reported that another Controller was having separation problems with aircraft; was asked if the needed help and Controller denied help. Reporter stated staffing issues and no Supervisor in the area at the time.

Narrative: I was on a control position for nearly an hour and 45 minutes then was told by the Controller in Charge (CIC) to take over his position. I now was CIC after a busy session on RADAR. I went around the room and made sure traffic was not an issue for the controllers. I asked the controller on Tustin if he was ok or needed a handoff or spacing from the Traffic Management Unit (TMU) because and average amount of IFR traffic was coming in. He declined. After about 10 min I heard this controller make comments that alerted me to a problem. When I went to the sector I noticed the Citation making a left turn into an MVA and alerted the controller to it. I asked what was wrong and he said some issue with a VFR military helo not communicating near his arrival final to SNA. At that point I alerted him to another IFR arrival on final nearing the VFR helo; he tried to take action to turn the aircraft. He then said the Citation had an RA. I am not sure if the other aircraft involved had RA.Staffing problems and no supervisors when needed. Controller should have asked for help earlier or resolved the potential conflict earlier before it became complex. Don't take a controller who has already been on a busy position off that one and make them CIC or to another position for that matter.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Attributes
ACN	1441548
Time
Date	201704
Local Time Of Day	1801-2400
Place
Locale Reference	SNA.Airport
State Reference	CA
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	Helicopter
Flight Phase	Cruise
Route In Use	None
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Citation II S2/Bravo (C550)
Flight Phase	Final Approach
Route In Use	Visual Approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Supervisor / CIC
Qualification	Air Traffic Control Fully Certified
Experience	Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 5
Events
Anomaly	ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT

Sct TRACON controller in charge reported that another controller was having separation problems with aircraft; was asked if the needed help and controller denied help. Reporter stated staffing issues and no supervisor in the area at the time.