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|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : ccc|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 3000|
msl bound upper : 3000
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : n90|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
descent : approach
|Route In Use||enroute : on vectors|
|Function||instruction : instructor|
|Qualification||pilot : cfi|
pilot : commercial
pilot : instrument
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 100|
flight time total : 470
flight time type : 150
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : approach|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : insufficient time|
none taken : detected after the fact
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
|Air Traffic Incident||Inter Facility Coordination Failure|
Small aircraft X en route from atlantic city to islip (ny) I was given a radar vector of 090 degree to intercept the ILS (localizer) runway 6 approach course. Ny TRACON issued the vector to intercept the localizer prior to handing me off to approach control on a different frequency. Approximately 1 min after I was on the vector to the ILS 6 localizer course I lost both G/south and localizer indications. Upon questioning TRACON as to the status of the ILS components I was told that islip tower had shut down ILS 6 for an aircraft who requested ILS 24 due to some WX that he had picked up on his WX radar. The aircraft was established on the ILS 6 when he requested to abandon his approach and request ILS 24. I am confused as to why islip tower did not communicate the status of the ILS 6 approach to ny TRACON prior to giving me a radar vector in IMC (thundershowers, moderate turbulence, and rain) for an approach that was not in use. Possibly better coordination between islip tower and ny TRACON could deter this situation from happening again. Until then, pilots be on guard for phantom ILS approach vectors.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ILS SHUTDOWN AND RWY CHANGE AT ISP. SMA X NOT INFORMED.
Narrative: SMA X ENRTE FROM ATLANTIC CITY TO ISLIP (NY) I WAS GIVEN A RADAR VECTOR OF 090 DEG TO INTERCEPT THE ILS (LOC) RWY 6 APCH COURSE. NY TRACON ISSUED THE VECTOR TO INTERCEPT THE LOC PRIOR TO HANDING ME OFF TO APCH CTL ON A DIFFERENT FREQ. APPROX 1 MIN AFTER I WAS ON THE VECTOR TO THE ILS 6 LOC COURSE I LOST BOTH G/S AND LOC INDICATIONS. UPON QUESTIONING TRACON AS TO THE STATUS OF THE ILS COMPONENTS I WAS TOLD THAT ISLIP TWR HAD SHUT DOWN ILS 6 FOR AN ACFT WHO REQUESTED ILS 24 DUE TO SOME WX THAT HE HAD PICKED UP ON HIS WX RADAR. THE ACFT WAS ESTABLISHED ON THE ILS 6 WHEN HE REQUESTED TO ABANDON HIS APCH AND REQUEST ILS 24. I AM CONFUSED AS TO WHY ISLIP TWR DID NOT COMMUNICATE THE STATUS OF THE ILS 6 APCH TO NY TRACON PRIOR TO GIVING ME A RADAR VECTOR IN IMC (THUNDERSHOWERS, MODERATE TURB, AND RAIN) FOR AN APCH THAT WAS NOT IN USE. POSSIBLY BETTER COORD BTWN ISLIP TWR AND NY TRACON COULD DETER THIS SITUATION FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. UNTIL THEN, PLTS BE ON GUARD FOR PHANTOM ILS APCH VECTORS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.