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IFR pilot cleared to 6000' and told to expect 7000' in 5 minutes. Then vectored to intercept a radial and 'cleared as filed'. Climbed to 7000'.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 140826 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199003 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : mmu |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : n90 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 500 flight time type : 160 |
| ASRS Report | 140826 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
When I received clearance at mmu I was told to expect 7000' 5 mins after departure. After departing mmu and climbing en route towards brezy intersection I was cleared to 6000'. After being vectored at this altitude the controller cleared me to intercept the 217 degree right of the kingston VOR to brezy intersection than cleared me as filed and handed me off to another controller. I thought out, 'loud cleared as filed', stated to my passenger, also an instrument rated pilot, 'I am cleared to 7000', correct?' to which he replied affirmatively and I started my climb to my assigned altitude. When I contacted the new controller I stated something to the effect that I was at 6.3 climbing to 7000'. He came back after a min and questioned my altitude saying I had not been cleared to 7000'. I came back that I was cleared as filed and that to me this meant my expected en route altitude of 7000'. He did not seem pleased, but did not send me back to 6000' either. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information. Reporter states he checked with two cfii's who both agree with his interpretation of 'cleared as filed'. No follow up by FAA. Analyst counseled and referred to aim.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: IFR PLT CLEARED TO 6000' AND TOLD TO EXPECT 7000' IN 5 MINUTES. THEN VECTORED TO INTERCEPT A RADIAL AND 'CLEARED AS FILED'. CLIMBED TO 7000'.
Narrative: WHEN I RECEIVED CLRNC AT MMU I WAS TOLD TO EXPECT 7000' 5 MINS AFTER DEP. AFTER DEPARTING MMU AND CLBING ENRTE TOWARDS BREZY INTXN I WAS CLRED TO 6000'. AFTER BEING VECTORED AT THIS ALT THE CTLR CLRED ME TO INTERCEPT THE 217 DEG R OF THE KINGSTON VOR TO BREZY INTXN THAN CLRED ME AS FILED AND HANDED ME OFF TO ANOTHER CTLR. I THOUGHT OUT, 'LOUD CLRED AS FILED', STATED TO MY PAX, ALSO AN INSTRUMENT RATED PLT, 'I AM CLRED TO 7000', CORRECT?' TO WHICH HE REPLIED AFFIRMATIVELY AND I STARTED MY CLB TO MY ASSIGNED ALT. WHEN I CONTACTED THE NEW CTLR I STATED SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT I WAS AT 6.3 CLBING TO 7000'. HE CAME BACK AFTER A MIN AND QUESTIONED MY ALT SAYING I HAD NOT BEEN CLRED TO 7000'. I CAME BACK THAT I WAS CLRED AS FILED AND THAT TO ME THIS MEANT MY EXPECTED ENRTE ALT OF 7000'. HE DID NOT SEEM PLEASED, BUT DID NOT SEND ME BACK TO 6000' EITHER. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO. RPTR STATES HE CHKED WITH TWO CFII'S WHO BOTH AGREE WITH HIS INTERPRETATION OF 'CLRED AS FILED'. NO FOLLOW UP BY FAA. ANALYST COUNSELED AND REFERRED TO AIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.