Near midair collision between an small aircraft and an air carrier medium large transport.

Attributes
ACN	140445
Time
Date	199003
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ito
State Reference	HI
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1700 msl bound upper : 1700
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : ito tower : ito
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	cruise other descent : approach descent other
Route In Use	approach : visual arrival other enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 8300 flight time type : 5000
ASRS Report	140445
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 215 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 215
ASRS Report	140356
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Miss Distance	horizontal : 400 vertical : 200
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Ambiguous
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Error
Situations
ATC Facility	other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

Sequence of events: WX: scattered clouds above 2500' MSL, hazy. Cleared visibility approach runway 8 at approximately 7 NM field. Entered modified left downwind (dogleg) to runway 8. Controller had us on approach frequency. He was simulcasting on tower and approach frequencys. At 1700' MSL, abeam approach end of runway 8 by about 1-2 NM controller said, 'traffic 12 O'clock, 1 mi, 1500'.' I immediately leveled off at 1700' MSL. First officer calls 'no joy.' controller said, 'off your left, 1/2 mi.' first officer said to me, 'tally ho, pull up.' I started to pull up and saw an small aircraft at 11 O'clock, distance 400' and just below me turning into me. He passed to left and low. I informed controller I felt that was too close, and he responded by saying, 'I issued the traffic.' my feeling is that he should have issued the traffic sooner since he was controling both the tower and approach. Supplemental information from acn 140356: see and avoid is the rule, but an aircraft at 1 NM nose on with no line of sight movement against the background of a town is hard to see. It was his initial turn that aided the visibility sighting.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: NMAC BETWEEN AN SMA AND AN ACR MLG.

Narrative: SEQUENCE OF EVENTS: WX: SCATTERED CLOUDS ABOVE 2500' MSL, HAZY. CLRED VIS APCH RWY 8 AT APPROX 7 NM FIELD. ENTERED MODIFIED LEFT DOWNWIND (DOGLEG) TO RWY 8. CTLR HAD US ON APCH FREQ. HE WAS SIMULCASTING ON TWR AND APCH FREQS. AT 1700' MSL, ABEAM APCH END OF RWY 8 BY ABOUT 1-2 NM CTLR SAID, 'TFC 12 O'CLOCK, 1 MI, 1500'.' I IMMEDIATELY LEVELED OFF AT 1700' MSL. F/O CALLS 'NO JOY.' CTLR SAID, 'OFF YOUR LEFT, 1/2 MI.' F/O SAID TO ME, 'TALLY HO, PULL UP.' I STARTED TO PULL UP AND SAW AN SMA AT 11 O'CLOCK, DISTANCE 400' AND JUST BELOW ME TURNING INTO ME. HE PASSED TO LEFT AND LOW. I INFORMED CTLR I FELT THAT WAS TOO CLOSE, AND HE RESPONDED BY SAYING, 'I ISSUED THE TFC.' MY FEELING IS THAT HE SHOULD HAVE ISSUED THE TFC SOONER SINCE HE WAS CTLING BOTH THE TWR AND APCH. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 140356: SEE AND AVOID IS THE RULE, BUT AN ACFT AT 1 NM NOSE ON WITH NO LINE OF SIGHT MOVEMENT AGAINST THE BACKGROUND OF A TOWN IS HARD TO SEE. IT WAS HIS INITIAL TURN THAT AIDED THE VIS SIGHTING.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.