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FAA inspector discovers discrepency between revision records belonging to the captain and the first officer of an air carrier flight preparing to depart dtw.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 139304 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199003 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 7000 |
| ASRS Report | 139304 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties faa : investigated |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During preflight on a quick turn around, we were ramp checked by the FAA, wanted to see certificates and revision records. The captain and I had different revision numbers (by 1) that the inspector inquired as to why the difference. We gave him a short explanation but I am not sure if adequate for him. The disruption in our task at hand I felt posed a greater safety threat than having different revision numbers on our record sheet. I should hope in the future, that young or old FAA inspectors learn to identify the real problems and not become a party to the problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FAA INSPECTOR DISCOVERS DISCREPENCY BETWEEN REVISION RECORDS BELONGING TO THE CAPT AND THE FO OF AN ACR FLT PREPARING TO DEPART DTW.
Narrative: DURING PREFLT ON A QUICK TURN AROUND, WE WERE RAMP CHKED BY THE FAA, WANTED TO SEE CERTIFICATES AND REVISION RECORDS. THE CAPT AND I HAD DIFFERENT REVISION NUMBERS (BY 1) THAT THE INSPECTOR INQUIRED AS TO WHY THE DIFFERENCE. WE GAVE HIM A SHORT EXPLANATION BUT I AM NOT SURE IF ADEQUATE FOR HIM. THE DISRUPTION IN OUR TASK AT HAND I FELT POSED A GREATER SAFETY THREAT THAN HAVING DIFFERENT REVISION NUMBERS ON OUR RECORD SHEET. I SHOULD HOPE IN THE FUTURE, THAT YOUNG OR OLD FAA INSPECTORS LEARN TO IDENTIFY THE REAL PROBS AND NOT BECOME A PARTY TO THE PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.