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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 139253 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199003 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ont |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 6200 msl bound upper : 7400 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mkg |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid enroute airway : ont |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1200 |
| ASRS Report | 139253 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While about 5500' to 5800' MSL, departure control called 'mode C 1 1/2 mi 11:30 popup, altitude 6200'. Climb immediately'. We were at 210 KTS, 1.65 EPR, climbing to 7000' on the prado 2 SID from ont. I was first officer flying, I stood up the thrust levers, called set go around thrust, and pulled back. While we were doing this, ATC called traffic Y 6400' closing. I kept the aircraft at maximum climb to our altitude clearance of 7000', and hit 7400' on level off to get above a broken cloud layer 6400-7200'. We leveled on top, ATC said to maintain 7300' since we broke 7000'. Note: we had FAA ATC ZFW controller on jumpseat, he told us that ATC is seeing more traffic not using mode C so they can penetrate controled airspace, and that it was common to see this sudden mode C appearance when a traffic conflict comes up.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC OR AIRBORNE CONFLICT BETWEEN ACR MLG AND UNKNOWN POPUP TRAFFIC NEAR ONT.
Narrative: WHILE ABOUT 5500' TO 5800' MSL, DEP CTL CALLED 'MODE C 1 1/2 MI 11:30 POPUP, ALT 6200'. CLB IMMEDIATELY'. WE WERE AT 210 KTS, 1.65 EPR, CLBING TO 7000' ON THE PRADO 2 SID FROM ONT. I WAS F/O FLYING, I STOOD UP THE THRUST LEVERS, CALLED SET GO AROUND THRUST, AND PULLED BACK. WHILE WE WERE DOING THIS, ATC CALLED TFC Y 6400' CLOSING. I KEPT THE ACFT AT MAX CLB TO OUR ALT CLRNC OF 7000', AND HIT 7400' ON LEVEL OFF TO GET ABOVE A BROKEN CLOUD LAYER 6400-7200'. WE LEVELED ON TOP, ATC SAID TO MAINTAIN 7300' SINCE WE BROKE 7000'. NOTE: WE HAD FAA ATC ZFW CTLR ON JUMPSEAT, HE TOLD US THAT ATC IS SEEING MORE TFC NOT USING MODE C SO THEY CAN PENETRATE CTLED AIRSPACE, AND THAT IT WAS COMMON TO SEE THIS SUDDEN MODE C APPEARANCE WHEN A TFC CONFLICT COMES UP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.