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Captain of medium large transport aircraft accepted routing that took them more than 50 miles off shore. Reporter alleges aircraft not equipped for over water operation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 137876 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199003 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sav |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 137876 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft was just south of salisbury, md VOR when center offered and captain accepted a clearance direct to ormond VOR, fl. I suggested we would be too far offshore for an airplane without rafts. He told me that he would make that decision. Approximately 100 NM later, center offered and captain accepted a clearance direct to pbi. I again said I thought we would be too far offshore. Captain again made a rude remark. Our actual distance offshore increased to 80-90 mi at furthest point.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF MLG ACFT ACCEPTED ROUTING THAT TOOK THEM MORE THAN 50 MILES OFF SHORE. REPORTER ALLEGES ACFT NOT EQUIPPED FOR OVER WATER OPERATION.
Narrative: ACFT WAS JUST S OF SALISBURY, MD VOR WHEN CENTER OFFERED AND CAPT ACCEPTED A CLRNC DIRECT TO ORMOND VOR, FL. I SUGGESTED WE WOULD BE TOO FAR OFFSHORE FOR AN AIRPLANE WITHOUT RAFTS. HE TOLD ME THAT HE WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION. APPROX 100 NM LATER, CENTER OFFERED AND CAPT ACCEPTED A CLRNC DIRECT TO PBI. I AGAIN SAID I THOUGHT WE WOULD BE TOO FAR OFFSHORE. CAPT AGAIN MADE A RUDE REMARK. OUR ACTUAL DISTANCE OFFSHORE INCREASED TO 80-90 MI AT FURTHEST POINT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.