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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1376772 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201608 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZLC.ARTCC |
| State Reference | UT |
| Environment | |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 900 (CRJ900) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | A380 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 129 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Enroute Instructor |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 27 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Inflight Event / Encounter Wake Vortex Encounter |
Narrative:
A crj-900 had just checked on our frequency at FL350 and reported smooth rides. We (I was training a developmental on the right position) answered mostly smooth ahead. A super airbus A380 [flew] over the top of the crj-900 at FL370. Since the aircraft were 2000 feet apart we did not issue merging target procedures or issue wake turbulence advisories. One minute after the crj-900 passed beneath the A380 the pilot said; 'hey center; it would have been nice if you would have called traffic on that A380 that just passed over us.' I then informed the pilot our rules apply to 1000 feet vertical separation and merging target/wake turbulence procedures. I asked if he received any wake turbulence from the A380 and he responded affirmatively.I have sent a previous report on the A380 wake turbulence in the enroute environment problem. The wake turbulence advisories for [the] A380 need to be expanded. I believe the A380 is a unique aircraft that will need even more scrutiny and special procedures. I believe the FAA needs to be more proactive issuing advisories about wake turbulence and super aircraft. This has been a problem that many in the aviation community; pilots and controllers; have been very aware [of].
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZLC Center Controller reported a CRJ-900 encountered wake turbulence at FL350 when it passed beneath an A380 that was at FL370. Controller recommended that new procedures be instituted for the A380 aircraft.
Narrative: A CRJ-900 had just checked on our frequency at FL350 and reported smooth rides. We (I was training a developmental on the R position) answered mostly smooth ahead. A Super Airbus A380 [flew] over the top of the CRJ-900 at FL370. Since the aircraft were 2000 feet apart we did not issue merging target procedures or issue wake turbulence advisories. One minute after the CRJ-900 passed beneath the A380 the pilot said; 'Hey Center; it would have been nice if you would have called traffic on that A380 that just passed over us.' I then informed the pilot our rules apply to 1000 feet vertical separation and merging target/wake turbulence procedures. I asked if he received any wake turbulence from the A380 and he responded affirmatively.I have sent a previous report on the A380 wake turbulence in the enroute environment problem. The wake turbulence advisories for [the] A380 need to be expanded. I believe the A380 is a unique aircraft that will need even more scrutiny and special procedures. I believe the FAA needs to be more proactive issuing advisories about wake turbulence and Super aircraft. This has been a problem that many in the aviation community; pilots and controllers; have been very aware [of].
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.