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Medium large transport flight crew on arrival to lga kept high until next sector controller questioned assigned altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 136686 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199002 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : dqo |
| State Reference | DE |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 136686 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 10000 |
| ASRS Report | 136685 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
On nanci two arrival to lga, the controller cleared flight to 17,000 upon passing dupont VOR, then further cleared the flight to 16,000 with a restriction of 30 DME northeast of dupont VOR. This clearance was met and we were handed off to the next controller. The new controller questioned our altitude and asked if we were cleared to a lower altitude. He then cleared us to descend to 11,000 with no speed restriction and we crossed 11,000 at approximately 10 DME southeast of yardley at 11,000. The above confusion could have been averted if the ATC was adequately staffed and trained as well as newer equipment was installed in this high density area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG FLT CREW ON ARR TO LGA KEPT HIGH UNTIL NEXT SECTOR CTLR QUESTIONED ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: ON NANCI TWO ARR TO LGA, THE CTLR CLRED FLT TO 17,000 UPON PASSING DUPONT VOR, THEN FURTHER CLRED THE FLT TO 16,000 WITH A RESTRICTION OF 30 DME NE OF DUPONT VOR. THIS CLRNC WAS MET AND WE WERE HANDED OFF TO THE NEXT CTLR. THE NEW CTLR QUESTIONED OUR ALT AND ASKED IF WE WERE CLRED TO A LOWER ALT. HE THEN CLRED US TO DSND TO 11,000 WITH NO SPEED RESTRICTION AND WE CROSSED 11,000 AT APPROX 10 DME SE OF YARDLEY AT 11,000. THE ABOVE CONFUSION COULD HAVE BEEN AVERTED IF THE ATC WAS ADEQUATELY STAFFED AND TRAINED AS WELL AS NEWER EQUIPMENT WAS INSTALLED IN THIS HIGH DENSITY AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.