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Flight crew of medium large transport being vectored for approach to dfw possibly vectored too close in too high to accept a visual.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 135767 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199002 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw tower : ord |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 135767 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Approach from blue ridge. Vectored downwind at 210 KIAS to 5000', and later 4000' (from 11000'). Turned base just outside the marker. We popped out underneath at approximately 3500-4000'. The controller wanted us to take a visibility. We were far too high. He vectored us for a left downwind to 36L. 3 times I asked for an ATC phone #. I also told the controller to fill out a NASA report. Dfw is an accident waiting to happen!!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF MLG BEING VECTORED FOR APCH TO DFW POSSIBLY VECTORED TOO CLOSE IN TOO HIGH TO ACCEPT A VISUAL.
Narrative: APCH FROM BLUE RIDGE. VECTORED DOWNWIND AT 210 KIAS TO 5000', AND LATER 4000' (FROM 11000'). TURNED BASE JUST OUTSIDE THE MARKER. WE POPPED OUT UNDERNEATH AT APPROX 3500-4000'. THE CTLR WANTED US TO TAKE A VIS. WE WERE FAR TOO HIGH. HE VECTORED US FOR A LEFT DOWNWIND TO 36L. 3 TIMES I ASKED FOR AN ATC PHONE #. I ALSO TOLD THE CTLR TO FILL OUT A NASA RPT. DFW IS AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN!!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.