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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 135477 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199002 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : fll |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1200 msl bound upper : 1200 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : fll |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 175 |
| ASRS Report | 135477 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Tower asked an small aircraft if he had us in sight, as we were on takeoff runway. Small aircraft advised he did. Tower told him to pass behind us. I advised I did not have him in sight. Climbing through 1200' the small aircraft came into view on my left side. I told mia departure to tell fll tower. I switched to #3 radio. Fll tower was asking small aircraft if he understood the instructions and his comment was something inane. 'Poor judgement' on his part is what the tower said, when I asked what happened! If our aircraft had weighted more than the takeoff weight of 134000# it could very easily have been a disaster. The first officer was flying and had rotated to 20 degrees nose-up, maximum deck angle for the small aircraft on takeoff and climb. As a habit I DOD not rotate above 15 degrees. If it had been my takeoff, we would have collided, I feel.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CREW HEARD SMA ACCEPT CLRNC TO PASS BEHIND THEM. ON INITIAL CLIMB SMA APPEARS ON LEFT SIDE OF ACR.
Narrative: TWR ASKED AN SMA IF HE HAD US IN SIGHT, AS WE WERE ON TKOF RWY. SMA ADVISED HE DID. TWR TOLD HIM TO PASS BEHIND US. I ADVISED I DID NOT HAVE HIM IN SIGHT. CLBING THROUGH 1200' THE SMA CAME INTO VIEW ON MY LEFT SIDE. I TOLD MIA DEP TO TELL FLL TWR. I SWITCHED TO #3 RADIO. FLL TWR WAS ASKING SMA IF HE UNDERSTOOD THE INSTRUCTIONS AND HIS COMMENT WAS SOMETHING INANE. 'POOR JUDGEMENT' ON HIS PART IS WHAT THE TWR SAID, WHEN I ASKED WHAT HAPPENED! IF OUR ACFT HAD WEIGHTED MORE THAN THE TKOF WT OF 134000# IT COULD VERY EASILY HAVE BEEN A DISASTER. THE F/O WAS FLYING AND HAD ROTATED TO 20 DEGS NOSE-UP, MAX DECK ANGLE FOR THE SMA ON TKOF AND CLB. AS A HABIT I DOD NOT ROTATE ABOVE 15 DEGS. IF IT HAD BEEN MY TKOF, WE WOULD HAVE COLLIDED, I FEEL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.