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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1354752 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201605 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Dash 8-100 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Weight And Balance |
Narrative:
Takeoff out of ZZZ was completed using the company provided ATOG for departure off runway 31 with tailwind calculations completed and at an approved weight. After departure I felt there may have been a compatibility issue and during cruise I looked in the afm and discovered supplement 3 is not compatible with supplement 26. Which means operations in tailwinds between 10-20kts cannot be conducted on gravel runways. There is absolutely no reason there should be atogs provided to crewmembers for tailwind operations from a gravel runway when this is not valid. This is a trap the company has overlooked apparently and the tailwind notes for 10-20 should be removed from the atogs completely and immediately to prevent other crews from this circumstance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DHC-8-100 flight crew discovered incompatibility with ATOG procedures off gravel surfaced runways.
Narrative: Takeoff out of ZZZ was completed using the company provided ATOG for departure off runway 31 with tailwind calculations completed and at an approved weight. After departure I felt there may have been a compatibility issue and during cruise I looked in the AFM and discovered supplement 3 is not compatible with supplement 26. Which means operations in tailwinds between 10-20kts cannot be conducted on gravel runways. There is absolutely no reason there should be ATOGS provided to crewmembers for tailwind operations from a gravel runway when this is not valid. This is a trap the company has overlooked apparently and the tailwind notes for 10-20 should be removed from the ATOGS completely and immediately to prevent other crews from this circumstance.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.