A military flight of two aircraft climbed above the altitude of their assigned departure procedure i...

Attributes
ACN	1350359
Time
Date	201604
Local Time Of Day	1801-2400
Place
Locale Reference	S56.TRACON
State Reference	UT
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	Fighter
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	Climb
Route In Use	Direct
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	PA-44 Seminole/Turbo Seminole
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	Climb
Route In Use	Vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Approach
Qualification	Air Traffic Control Fully Certified
Experience	Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 0.8
Person 2
Function	Approach
Qualification	Air Traffic Control Fully Certified
Experience	Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 5.5
Events
Anomaly	ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy

Narrative:

I was working the TRACON sectors. Aircraft Y had departed southbound. He was shipped slightly later than usual and I had to ask them to ship him again. When I got the aircraft I turned him southbound to get him on course. I saw a release of aircraft X a military flight of two. I was listening closely to ensure they stopped them lower; knowing that aircraft Y was still in the way out to the west as I wasn't able to turn him south quicker. I heard the controller issue aircraft X 8;000 feet so I moved on. I could tell that aircraft X was going to pass behind aircraft Y; so I hadn't issued traffic. When I realized that aircraft X was violating their altitude; I heard the controller tell them to maintain visual separation and by the time I could have issued traffic or a traffic alert they were already passing behind aircraft Y.I think the military really needs to come see what we do at this facility so they know how they impact the other traffic out in the practice area. It would be good training for them. I also think there needs to be more responsibility on them to pay attention to their restrictions. We are constantly having military aircraft violate their instructions and get too close to other aircraft. At the current trend it's just a matter of time before something very bad happens with the squadron.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A military flight of two aircraft climbed above the altitude of their assigned departure procedure into confliction with enroute traffic.

Narrative: I was working the TRACON sectors. Aircraft Y had departed southbound. He was shipped slightly later than usual and I had to ask them to ship him again. When I got the aircraft I turned him southbound to get him on course. I saw a release of Aircraft X a military flight of two. I was listening closely to ensure they stopped them lower; knowing that Aircraft Y was still in the way out to the west as I wasn't able to turn him south quicker. I heard the controller issue Aircraft X 8;000 feet so I moved on. I could tell that Aircraft X was going to pass behind Aircraft Y; so I hadn't issued traffic. When I realized that Aircraft X was violating their altitude; I heard the controller tell them to maintain visual separation and by the time I could have issued traffic or a traffic alert they were already passing behind Aircraft Y.I think the military really needs to come see what we do at this facility so they know how they impact the other traffic out in the practice area. It would be good training for them. I also think there needs to be more responsibility on them to pay attention to their restrictions. We are constantly having military aircraft violate their instructions and get too close to other aircraft. At the current trend it's just a matter of time before something very bad happens with the squadron.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.