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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 133854 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199001 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : prc |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : prc |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : private pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 340 flight time type : 80 |
| ASRS Report | 133854 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 20 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were flying a right-hand pattern. On downwind we were extending 4-5 mi for traffic. Our small aircraft X was cleared to follow an small aircraft Y on base, so we did. Everything was ok until short final. We were cleared to land when another small aircraft Z passed us on the left. He was closer than any formation flying I have every done before and going faster than us. I went around to the right. The small aircraft Z never saw us and landed while we were forced to go around. I have been flight instructing at prc for 3 months now and just became aware of your program. I have had numerous encounters similar to this one because of our lack of equipment to handle our traffic on this field. I have been flying at prc for 3 yrs and the traffic pattern has progressed past a safe level. The question is not whether or not we will have a midair collision, but when.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT INSTRUCTOR IN SMA HAD NMAC WITH ANOTHER SMA IN TRAFFIC PATTERN AT PRC.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING A RIGHT-HAND PATTERN. ON DOWNWIND WE WERE EXTENDING 4-5 MI FOR TFC. OUR SMA X WAS CLRED TO FOLLOW AN SMA Y ON BASE, SO WE DID. EVERYTHING WAS OK UNTIL SHORT FINAL. WE WERE CLRED TO LAND WHEN ANOTHER SMA Z PASSED US ON THE LEFT. HE WAS CLOSER THAN ANY FORMATION FLYING I HAVE EVERY DONE BEFORE AND GOING FASTER THAN US. I WENT AROUND TO THE RIGHT. THE SMA Z NEVER SAW US AND LANDED WHILE WE WERE FORCED TO GO AROUND. I HAVE BEEN FLT INSTRUCTING AT PRC FOR 3 MONTHS NOW AND JUST BECAME AWARE OF YOUR PROGRAM. I HAVE HAD NUMEROUS ENCOUNTERS SIMILAR TO THIS ONE BECAUSE OF OUR LACK OF EQUIP TO HANDLE OUR TFC ON THIS FIELD. I HAVE BEEN FLYING AT PRC FOR 3 YRS AND THE TFC PATTERN HAS PROGRESSED PAST A SAFE LEVEL. THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL HAVE A MIDAIR COLLISION, BUT WHEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.