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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1335956 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201602 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ATL.Airport |
| State Reference | GA |
| Environment | |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 900 (CRJ900) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
| Route In Use | SID DAWGS8 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | B737-900 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Check Pilot Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Rotorcraft |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 120 Flight Crew Total 15500 Flight Crew Type 10000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Inflight Event / Encounter Wake Vortex Encounter |
Narrative:
Several months ago; ATC for the atl airport instituted a new reduced separation program for departures. This program seems to be used on a hit and miss basis. Many tower controllers still use the greater separation distance between heavy and lighter aircraft. On the date in question we were set to depart behind a B777; B757 and B737-900. We were cleared to line up immediately after the B737 was cleared for takeoff. Before the B737 was half way down the runway; we were cleared for takeoff. I elected to wait until that aircraft rotated and began to climb before I advanced power for take off. Through approximately 1000 ft AGL; we flew into the wake of the 737 and were rolled at a moderate rate. It took almost full aileron input to keep our aircraft close to wings level. Shortly thereafter; as our paths diverged; we again flew into the wake of the 737; this time the roll rate was somewhat faster; again requiring full aileron input to keep our airplane from exceeding a 30 degree bank although we were not originally in a turn. The autopilot was never engaged in anticipation of this problem due to the reduced separation.some factors for consideration might be to reconsider this reduced separation for departures. A fully loaded crj; regardless of variant has much less available energy for recovery than one of the heavy aircraft we are now following so closely. Additionally; a 737-900 is essentially a 757 and puts out a similar wake although somewhat mitigated by the winglets. This reduced separation program seems to be more of a convenience for the controlling agency to facilitate more aircraft launches; than a program concerned with separation safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ-900 Captain reported encountering wake turbulence departing ATL in trail of a B737-900.
Narrative: Several months ago; ATC for the ATL airport instituted a new reduced separation program for departures. This program seems to be used on a hit and miss basis. Many Tower controllers still use the greater separation distance between heavy and lighter aircraft. On the date in question we were set to depart behind a B777; B757 and B737-900. We were cleared to line up immediately after the B737 was cleared for takeoff. Before the B737 was half way down the runway; we were cleared for takeoff. I elected to wait until that aircraft rotated and began to climb before I advanced power for take off. Through approximately 1000 ft AGL; we flew into the wake of the 737 and were rolled at a moderate rate. It took almost full aileron input to keep our aircraft close to wings level. Shortly thereafter; as our paths diverged; we again flew into the wake of the 737; this time the roll rate was somewhat faster; again requiring full aileron input to keep our airplane from exceeding a 30 degree bank although we were not originally in a turn. The autopilot was never engaged in anticipation of this problem due to the reduced separation.Some factors for consideration might be to reconsider this reduced separation for departures. A fully loaded CRJ; regardless of variant has much less available energy for recovery than one of the heavy aircraft we are now following so closely. Additionally; a 737-900 is essentially a 757 and puts out a similar wake although somewhat mitigated by the winglets. This reduced separation program seems to be more of a convenience for the controlling agency to facilitate more aircraft launches; than a program concerned with separation safety.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.