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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 132778 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199001 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1900 msl bound upper : 1900 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax artcc : zfw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| ASRS Report | 132778 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Cga X was on a visual approach to santa monica airport runway 3. Air carrier Y was departing los angeles runway 24. Cga X was on a visual approach still southbound when air carrier Y came airborne. I issued air carrier Y an immediate climb through 2500 MSL maintain 9000' MSL. The aircraft passed approximately 1/4 mi apart and air carrier Y was about 200-300' above him. This situation occurred because somebody allowed that aircraft to proceed southbound and reenter the TCA in front of my departure. I suggest that a circling approach to santa monica runway 3 not be allowed with a jet unless los angeles runway 24 departures are stopped long enough to let the runway 3 approach clear runway 24 departure path.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DEPARTING ACR CAME IN CLOSE PROX TO A CGA LNDG AT AN ADJACENT ARPT.
Narrative: CGA X WAS ON A VISUAL APCH TO SANTA MONICA ARPT RWY 3. ACR Y WAS DEPARTING LOS ANGELES RWY 24. CGA X WAS ON A VISUAL APCH STILL SBND WHEN ACR Y CAME AIRBORNE. I ISSUED ACR Y AN IMMEDIATE CLIMB THROUGH 2500 MSL MAINTAIN 9000' MSL. THE ACFT PASSED APPROX 1/4 MI APART AND ACR Y WAS ABOUT 200-300' ABOVE HIM. THIS SITUATION OCCURRED BECAUSE SOMEBODY ALLOWED THAT ACFT TO PROCEED SBND AND REENTER THE TCA IN FRONT OF MY DEP. I SUGGEST THAT A CIRCLING APCH TO SANTA MONICA RWY 3 NOT BE ALLOWED WITH A JET UNLESS LOS ANGELES RWY 24 DEPS ARE STOPPED LONG ENOUGH TO LET THE RWY 3 APCH CLEAR RWY 24 DEP PATH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.