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Flight crew concerned with aircraft position as reported by departure controller. Had no indication of navigation error or problem form on board FMS on SID departure. Had a late contact handoff to departure control.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 132537 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199001 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : cri airport : jfk |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : dfw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1200 |
| ASRS Report | 132537 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 55 flight time total : 3700 flight time type : 95 |
| ASRS Report | 132309 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other other |
Narrative:
On departure from jfk runway 31L, breezy point departure, turned left to 240 degrees direct to canarsie VOR (cri). Tower was late switching us to departure. We were indicating over cri VOR and starting our turn to the outbnd radial when departure control contact was made and they indicated that we were 6 mi east of the VOR. We were given 250 degree heading to fly for climb. Our indicators had us over the VOR while departure indicated that we were 6 mi east of the VOR. No other navigation discrepancies were observed through the remainder of the flts.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW CONCERNED WITH ACFT POSITION AS REPORTED BY DEP CTLR. HAD NO INDICATION OF NAVIGATION ERROR OR PROBLEM FORM ON BOARD FMS ON SID DEP. HAD A LATE CONTACT HANDOFF TO DEP CTL.
Narrative: ON DEP FROM JFK RWY 31L, BREEZY POINT DEP, TURNED LEFT TO 240 DEGS DIRECT TO CANARSIE VOR (CRI). TWR WAS LATE SWITCHING US TO DEP. WE WERE INDICATING OVER CRI VOR AND STARTING OUR TURN TO THE OUTBND RADIAL WHEN DEP CTL CONTACT WAS MADE AND THEY INDICATED THAT WE WERE 6 MI E OF THE VOR. WE WERE GIVEN 250 DEG HDG TO FLY FOR CLB. OUR INDICATORS HAD US OVER THE VOR WHILE DEP INDICATED THAT WE WERE 6 MI E OF THE VOR. NO OTHER NAVIGATION DISCREPANCIES WERE OBSERVED THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE FLTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.