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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1314604 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201512 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | N90.TRACON |
| State Reference | NY |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 700 ER/LR (CRJ700) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | Other Instrument Approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Route In Use | Other Instrument Approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Approach |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 1.5 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Airspace Violation All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
Lga landing ILS22 I am working the south arrival feed and final combined. I received both IFR aircraft from the north arrival feed per SOP. Aircraft X was descending to 4;000 on the 22 localizer a VFR departure off hpn east bound was level at 2;500 and aircraft X responded to an RA. I didn't notice the VFR change altitude if he did. Aircraft Y was level at 4;000 a few minutes behind aircraft X; also on the 22 localizer. A VFR departure off hpn east bound I saw him 2;500 climbing. I called traffic aircraft Y saw him and was instructed to maintain visual. The VFR continued to climb and aircraft Y responded to an RA. This is an ongoing problem with VFR departure off of hpn there are 2 arrival routes that run about 5 miles east of hpn with IFR traffic at 3;000 and 4;000. I recommend an airspace and procedure change to ensure the safety of air traffic. My recommendation is to either extend the ny class bravo to cover this area down to 3;000 or change hpn airspace from a class D to a class C and form a workgroup to adjust the procedures with how eastbound VFR departure are handled.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A N90 Approach Controller reported two instances of IFR aircraft that were in a conflict with a VFR departure. The Controller recommends changing the Class Bravo or Class Delta to a Charlie to protect these IFR aircraft.
Narrative: LGA landing ILS22 I am working the south arrival feed and Final combined. I received both IFR aircraft from the north arrival feed per SOP. Aircraft X was descending to 4;000 on the 22 Localizer a VFR departure off HPN east bound was level at 2;500 and Aircraft X responded to an RA. I didn't notice the VFR change altitude if he did. Aircraft Y was level at 4;000 a few minutes behind Aircraft X; also on the 22 Localizer. A VFR departure off HPN east bound I saw him 2;500 climbing. I called traffic Aircraft Y saw him and was instructed to maintain visual. The VFR continued to climb and Aircraft Y responded to an RA. This is an ongoing problem with VFR departure off of HPN there are 2 arrival routes that run about 5 miles east of HPN with IFR traffic at 3;000 and 4;000. I recommend an airspace and procedure change to ensure the safety of air traffic. My recommendation is to either extend the NY class Bravo to cover this area down to 3;000 or change HPN airspace from a class D to a class C and form a workgroup to adjust the procedures with how eastbound VFR departure are handled.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.