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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 131111 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198912 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : frg |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : ground |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 14 |
| ASRS Report | 131111 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified atc |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | unspecified : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Small aircraft X and Y were allowed to land on the same runway (with trainers in progress). With less than standard separation, the local controller did not take a handle of the situation in due time to prevent this occurrence. Incident was not logged, nor trainers form made on the individual being trained. This incident occurred between 2 small aircraft's. The local controller should be aware at all times where his traffic is and pay stricter attention when trainers. Also, a lot of verbage between trainer and trainee should not occur while on position.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN SMA X AND Y. SYSTEM ERROR.
Narrative: SMA X AND Y WERE ALLOWED TO LAND ON THE SAME RWY (WITH TRAINERS IN PROGRESS). WITH LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION, THE LCL CTLR DID NOT TAKE A HANDLE OF THE SITUATION IN DUE TIME TO PREVENT THIS OCCURRENCE. INCIDENT WAS NOT LOGGED, NOR TRAINERS FORM MADE ON THE INDIVIDUAL BEING TRAINED. THIS INCIDENT OCCURRED BETWEEN 2 SMA'S. THE LCL CTLR SHOULD BE AWARE AT ALL TIMES WHERE HIS TFC IS AND PAY STRICTER ATTN WHEN TRAINERS. ALSO, A LOT OF VERBAGE BETWEEN TRAINER AND TRAINEE SHOULD NOT OCCUR WHILE ON POSITION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.