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Confusion over runway for takeoff at buf. Intersection takeoff with sufficient runway length in both directions.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 129734 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198911 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : buf |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 2300 |
| ASRS Report | 129734 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Active runway was 23, wind light, requested from ground an intersection departure from microphone on runway 5, since that was the general direction of flight. First said intersection charlie, since I was thinking of the current ATIS. This caused some initial confusion, but was clarified, and ground said that what I wanted was approved. The copilot called 'ready for takeoff on 23 at microphone.' I immediately corrected and said, 'read for takeoff on 5.' tower cleared us for takeoff and we departed on 5. On the climb out tower informed us that 23 was the active, thereby inferring we had departed the wrong runway. After a discussion on the radio about who said what, and if there had been opposing traffic, tower said there was no problem and turned us over to departure. This shows what can happen when there is communication confusion, not listening to what each other is saying. Before takeoff I should have clarified with tower exactly what I was going to do, and made sure he understood it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CONFUSION OVER RWY FOR TKOF AT BUF. INTERSECTION TKOF WITH SUFFICIENT RWY LENGTH IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
Narrative: ACTIVE RWY WAS 23, WIND LIGHT, REQUESTED FROM GND AN INTXN DEP FROM MIKE ON RWY 5, SINCE THAT WAS THE GENERAL DIRECTION OF FLT. FIRST SAID INTXN CHARLIE, SINCE I WAS THINKING OF THE CURRENT ATIS. THIS CAUSED SOME INITIAL CONFUSION, BUT WAS CLARIFIED, AND GND SAID THAT WHAT I WANTED WAS APPROVED. THE COPLT CALLED 'READY FOR TKOF ON 23 AT MIKE.' I IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED AND SAID, 'READ FOR TKOF ON 5.' TWR CLRED US FOR TKOF AND WE DEPARTED ON 5. ON THE CLBOUT TWR INFORMED US THAT 23 WAS THE ACTIVE, THEREBY INFERRING WE HAD DEPARTED THE WRONG RWY. AFTER A DISCUSSION ON THE RADIO ABOUT WHO SAID WHAT, AND IF THERE HAD BEEN OPPOSING TFC, TWR SAID THERE WAS NO PROB AND TURNED US OVER TO DEP. THIS SHOWS WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN THERE IS COM CONFUSION, NOT LISTENING TO WHAT EACH OTHER IS SAYING. BEFORE TKOF I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED WITH TWR EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO, AND MADE SURE HE UNDERSTOOD IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.