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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 129235 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198911 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : wrl |
| State Reference | WY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 20000 msl bound upper : 20000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc tower : lga |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 4 |
| ASRS Report | 129235 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
2 aircraft landing wrl. WX VFR. Second aircraft got first aircraft in sight (in positive control area). I cleared the second aircraft to follow the first on a visibility approach. Aircraft went down to 2 mi longitudinally at FL200'. I feel foolish. I forgot there is no VFR sep (or visibility sep) in positive control area! I won't do that again!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: VISUAL SEPARATION USED BY ARTCC CTLR IN PCA.
Narrative: 2 ACFT LNDG WRL. WX VFR. SECOND ACFT GOT FIRST ACFT IN SIGHT (IN PCA). I CLRED THE SECOND ACFT TO FOLLOW THE FIRST ON A VIS APCH. ACFT WENT DOWN TO 2 MI LONGITUDINALLY AT FL200'. I FEEL FOOLISH. I FORGOT THERE IS NO VFR SEP (OR VIS SEP) IN PCA! I WON'T DO THAT AGAIN!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.